Thursday, March 04, 2021

Call for Judgment: Proper proposte

Popular, 7-0. Josh

Adminned at 05 Mar 2021 20:24:37 UTC

The rule Proposte says

If all the Electors named in the title of a Proposta have the same Secret Faction when the Doge processes it

I’ve not consistently successfully done it that way; I’ve occasionally based the outcome of a Proposte on what the status quo was when it was posted, as that makes more sense to me than a world in which people are allowed to spam Change Secret Faction PMs to me while I’m asleep. Nevertheless, that’s wrong, and it has had a measurable but not, I think, meaningful impact (i.e. I can’t see that Power or Scandal totals would have changed) on the current state of the game.

Rather than unpick a bunch of stuff, uphold the current resolution of all proposte posted before this CfJ, and the Doge will strive to be more consistent.

I think that this rule should be changed though.

Comments

Clucky: he/him

04-03-2021 17:54:14 UTC

Curious to hear from the people effected by this and if they think it is fair

Madrid:

04-03-2021 17:56:39 UTC

I’d rather have the Doge process in timestamp order when possible, because things get incredibly hard to coordinate when there is some other arbitrary order that isn’t consistent/easily predictable.

Josh: Observer he/they

04-03-2021 18:02:38 UTC

I agree CB, I don’t want anybody gaming my sleep patterns.

pokes:

04-03-2021 18:10:43 UTC

+1 to changing the rule and also for

Zack: he/him

04-03-2021 18:13:29 UTC

Does this have any effect on the ruleset and/or gamestate?

Kevan: he/him

04-03-2021 18:17:19 UTC

[Zack] “uphold the current resolution of all proposte posted before this CfJ” is using a game-defined meaning of “uphold”; Josh’s actions and their outcomes - taken illegally - will become retroactively legal.

It doesn’t modify the rule, but the rule doesn’t necessarily need fixing: the issue here is that Josh misread it.

for

Zack: he/him

04-03-2021 19:27:16 UTC

for got it, thanks

Brendan: he/him

04-03-2021 23:58:09 UTC

for

Bucky:

05-03-2021 16:53:22 UTC

for

Raven1207: he/they

05-03-2021 17:03:25 UTC

for