Tuesday, October 02, 2012

Proposal: Students Without Borders

Reached quorum 5 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 03 Oct 2012 12:13:23 UTC

If the Proposal Do Not Erase (Citation) passes replace the text

inside that loop may be altered.


which are both inside that loop and which are not part of the same contiguous monochromatic region as the loop may be altered.

in the rule “The Whiteboard”

Technically, if we have a border that is a circle of radius 100 and has a thickness of ten, only the pixels on the very outside of the border can be removed under the current pending proposal. The rest of the border is contained within the larger circle of radius 109 and thickness one. As such, it could take lots of work to actually erase a border and edit the other contents of the whiteboard. We should allow the entire border to be erased, not just the very outside edge of the border.


Josh: Observer he/they

02-10-2012 07:05:08 UTC

against Not sure this is a problem - to qualify, the contiguous loops needs to encircle “at least one white pixel”, and the outer ring of pixels in a 10 pixel line would not achieve that.

Josh: Observer he/they

02-10-2012 07:06:22 UTC

Oh, hang on, “encircle” is a funny one, because I suppose the encircled pixel doesn’t have to be proximate to the border colour in any sense.

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Clucky: he/him

02-10-2012 07:16:10 UTC

Yeah, it still encircles all the other pixels the full border encircles too, it just also encircles the rest of the border preventing you from removing it.

Kevan: he/him

02-10-2012 10:31:58 UTC

against The same problem could still be created with ten large concentric circles which didn’t quite touch, and “DO NOT ERASE” in the middle one.

Josh: Observer he/they

02-10-2012 10:39:59 UTC

I think if someone wants to create that problem then that’s either a legitimate play or something that needs to be fixed separately; but the rule as it stands has the problem by default, and the fact that the problem can be deliberately replicated doesn’t seem to be relevant to this fix.

Kevan: he/him

02-10-2012 10:55:37 UTC

Well, if the problem can be deliberately replicated, then this isn’t much of a fix. And the current ruleset discourages me from voting for a Correction Proposal unless I think its enactment would somehow generate 0.111 Project points for me in the long run.

Josh: Observer he/they

02-10-2012 11:12:44 UTC

Heh, we should probably just get rid of correction proposals.

Clucky: he/him

02-10-2012 16:07:25 UTC

@Kevan true, but this is still way better than what is currently there.

Someone would have to intentionally construct your scenario, while someone just using a thick line will construct mine. Given its kinda a jerk move, hopefully just no one will try to pull it off until a fix can be applied while without my fix, people need to use really thin lines or not play with the whole mechanic until it gets fixed.

Clucky: he/him

02-10-2012 16:09:15 UTC

also, if you apply the “how easy is it to apply this rule” metric, there is no easy way to change every pixel on the border of a border, but there is an easy way to remove a whole border. So even if people do abuse this, its a lot less time intensive for fix it.


02-10-2012 16:39:42 UTC

I’m more concerned with the possibility of creating a wall of non white paint with just one white pixel inside it. Technically, the words “do not erase” are written in the same boarder color in the inner part of the it (it makes no difference if you can’t tell, as far as the rules (and proposals) go so far).
for as this would deal with that problem.

quirck: he/him

02-10-2012 20:20:57 UTC


Kevan: he/him

03-10-2012 19:13:05 UTC