Friday, June 09, 2017

Proposal: Temperature regulations

Timed out 3-1. Enacted by card.

Adminned at 11 Jun 2017 17:31:33 UTC

If the Proposal “Mnt Mission” was failed, do nothing.

Otherwise:

Create a subrule of rule “Camps” titled “Camp doors” and move to that subrule the text:

Camps can have two door states, open or closed and default to closed. Camps with open doors decrease their temperature by 10 degrees every 12 hours. Camps that are at -25°C or less do not decrease their temperature in this way. If an Explorer is located in a Camp they may set that Camps door state to open or closed, as an Outdoors action.

Make the rule “Fire” a subrule of rule “Camps”.

Replace the sentence:

Camps can have two door states, open or closed and default to closed.

with:

Every Camp either has closed doors or open doors.

Create a subrule of rule “Camps” titled “Et ignem regunt numeri”:

If at any time the Temperature of a Camp tracked on the wiki page “Camps” is inconsistent with the latest increases or decreases in Temperature described in rules “Camp doors” or “Fire”, an Explorer may update the wiki page “Camps” to reflect the change. For the purposes of all Gamestate and the Ruleset, excluding this rule, a Camp is considered to have the Temperature tracked on the wiki page “Camps”’.

 

 

Fixing the 12h automatic updating.

I also would have argued very strongly that a single Camp could have had both door states at once.

Comments

Cuddlebeam:

06-09-2017 14:26:36 UTC

As per Kevan’s observation in that other proposal, automatic per-time changes might be dickass to control because of needing to keep track of stuff with people and people are silly error-prone meatbags. I like the idea, its just that the implementation with what we have at hand would suck.

Also, how are we supposed to heat up places again? Make a new camp?

card:

06-09-2017 15:39:21 UTC

Oh I guess the wording with “two door states” was confusing. Good thing the core rules has the “alphabetically first” provision.

[CUddlebeam] Read the rule Fire in the Mnt Mission proposal.

card:

06-09-2017 15:40:02 UTC

for

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus:

06-09-2017 20:57:41 UTC

against

Cpt_Koen:

06-09-2017 23:55:19 UTC

Cuddlebeam: I don’t understand your argument. This Proposal’s purpose is specifically to fix the “automatic per-time changes” issue.

“If at any time the Temperature of a Camp tracked on the wiki page “Camps” is inconsistent with the latest increases or decreases in Temperature described in rules “Camp doors” or “Fire”, an Explorer may update the wiki page “Camps” to reflect the change. For the purposes of all Gamestate and the Ruleset, excluding this rule, a Camp is considered to have the Temperature tracked on the wiki page “Camps”’.”

This would mean that there is *nothing* automated. The current temperature of a camp is the temperature listed on the Camps wiki page, period. However, if that temperature is different from the temperature the camp would have if it had been “automatically” updated every 12 hours, then any Explorer may *manually* update the Camps wiki page to reflect the change.

As for your second question, heating up Camps is what the rule Fire would be for. The rule Fire would be created by the Proposal “Mnt Mission”. This Proposal is only a fix for “Mnt Mission”.

Kevan:

06-10-2017 11:05:32 UTC

for Still a bit awkward, but better than nothing.