For why @Jumble

Not thrilled by the onus being on enacting admins to check that all mind controls are valid (an enactment being illegal if they are not), rather than accepting them as legal by default and in-game punishing those caught using them without correct payment.

I’m a bit surprised by that objection - given that an apparent but false mind control can result in the emperor’s vote flipping, and thus carrying any DEFs with it, I thought it would be clearly important to ensure that proposals were adminned correctly in the first instance, rather than having subsequent chains of actions invalidated because Anya didn’t spend her 2 so that proposal should have failed, actually

I mean the rule could always accept the actions (something like “any player may perform Mind Control for free by announcing it, if they don’t deduct 2 Puissance within 24 hours for each such vote then they are Megrimmed and any player may turn them to Dust”), allowing admins to just process proposals based on votes and EVCs alone, and not have to worry about whether each action was correctly paid for.

It is absolutely important to ensure that proposals are adminned correctly, and your proposal would make it harder to do that - it’s asking admins to double-check proxy votes against the wiki history, when processing a proposal, and to pause the queue for a chat or a CfJ if there’s any ambiguity on whether a particular mind control action was performed correctly (if Anya makes a -2 Puissance edit of “I’m doing a thing” and casts two mind control votes on different proposals, which one is invalid, are they both invalid, etc).

Wiring game actions directly into the validity of votes does also mean that if we mess somebody’s Puissance up as a result of something else (“Anya’s Enthrallment last week was invalid, so she’s been Dust all week!”), we’ve suddenly changed the enactment timeline. Which we could get ourselves out of, but I’d rather not fall into it in the first place.

partly per Kevan, and partly because this works while Bloodthirsty and is a cheaper way to get down to 13 than the current mechanisms.

per Kevan

I think it’s a bad idea to disallow emergency vetoes.

This proposal doesn’t disallow emergency vetoes - the emperor can change from PROXY to VETO (or any other vote) as freely as they would otherwise.

per Kevan.

But only because I don’t have enough money to use this effectively.