Let them sleep

Wake up admins

Doesn’t the EVC clause mean that three-day-old proposals are less likely to be enacted, though?

Don’t think so Kevan, as they have to be enacted eventually and the penalty isn’t going anywhere.

Actually if a proposal is left unenacted for 7 days, it’s ignored for the purposes of calculating the oldest pending proposal. You could leave one for months if you wanted.

What? That’s bananas. It means that the admins can effectively pocket-veto any proposal they don’t like.

I doubt it would actually happen, especially given that the 11 currently active admins could just vote any proposal they didn’t like down anyway, but still.

That clause is mostly there because Ais523 was concerned that if a proposal was somehow incorrectly adminned, it would render every single later proposal illegal. I can’t see that it’s usefully abusable; if all the admins are working against a majority, then a quick CfJ would put them in their place.

Admins can avoid the Sun penalty by having zero Sun when they process an old proposal, so there would be a very tiny braking effect. Although actually, I’d be more concerned about the admin overhead; failing a three-day-old proposal is easy, but failing it and then updating the GNDT eleven times requires more time.

It would be easier if the GNDT could do batch updates, I guess, but sometimes the admin’s life is one of toil - it’s no different from having to initialise a new GNDT stat. Perhaps that can act as an additional incentive to admins to make sure that proposals get dealt with in a timely fashion?

The problem lately (this and the preceding three or so dynasties) hasn’t been that admins are too slow to resolve proposals, but that it’s too hard to reach quorum. If half of the proposals time out before they can be resolved, then obviously the sidebar’s going to look a bit red now and again.

without the EVC clause.

As Ely said, Let them sleep

Let them sleep.  Giving admins special treatment strikes me as being broken.

But leave the admins asleep