Monday, October 04, 2021

Proposal: Tinker Town

Fewer than a quorum not voting AGAINST. Failed 2 votes to 7 with one unresolved DEF. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 06 Oct 2021 18:01:08 UTC

Add the following to “Zoning”

When a Citizen Moves to a Zone, their Floor becomes the topmost floor in that Zone.

When a proposal authored by a Citizen is enacted, after the ruleset and zones have been updated, then if a single Zone was added or modified by that proposal then the proposal’s author moves to that Zone.



redtara: they/them

04-10-2021 19:59:52 UTC



04-10-2021 20:00:39 UTC

So, moving to a zone can be done in two ways, via this rule or by changing floors? What about moving between floors in a zone? I guess that’s not “moving to a zone”?


04-10-2021 20:18:12 UTC


Clucky: he/him

04-10-2021 20:49:26 UTC

“Moves to a Zone” is intended to be a thing people can do, that only triggers when the explicitly move to a zone. Simply changing your floor is not intended to count as “Moving to a zone”

could’ve easily clarified that if certain players didn’t decide to edit lock it for some reason

lemon: she/her

04-10-2021 21:23:02 UTC

against this collapses all of the interesting variety of a zone containing multiple floors. i know thats not ur intent, but a rude edit lock has petrified it into a boring shape. RIP

Clucky: he/him

04-10-2021 21:58:13 UTC

personally I think its still fine without the clarification. “Moves” isn’t defined elsewhere, so I think it is a bit of a stretch to say that if someone changes floors they “moved to that floor” and an even bigger stretch to say they “moved to the zone” the floor is in.


04-10-2021 23:33:39 UTC


Raven1207: he/him

04-10-2021 23:58:06 UTC



05-10-2021 00:22:52 UTC

If you want Move to a Zone not to be defined in the traditional sense, maybe use a less generic english word, like Teleport or Jump. Otherwise I’ll probably expect changing floors to also be moving. against

Clucky: he/him

05-10-2021 04:36:14 UTC

why? seems to me if you’re not explicitly moving there, you don’t move there.


05-10-2021 06:57:05 UTC

I just feel that explicit-ness as a boundary leans too far toward the pedantic. I like to allow for some small flexibility with the way people describe their meaning, even in our nomic’s ruleset.

But I don’t want to criticize; I’m just putting my thoughts out there to be helpful.

Kevan: he/him

05-10-2021 08:22:00 UTC

imperial Not the best choice of verb, but it’s otherwise fine.

lemon: she/her

05-10-2021 09:02:35 UTC

yeah i feel like if there’s any room for interpretation of plain english in our rules, then being on one floor of a tower, and then being on a different floor of the tower… is definitely moving, no stretches necessary

Josh: he/they

05-10-2021 09:27:03 UTC


Zack: he/him

05-10-2021 22:21:15 UTC