Friday, February 20, 2015

Story Post: Trial: The Curious Case of ais523

With Command Quorum at 2 and an Unhappy Atmosphere, passes with 2 FOR votes. Enacted by Brendan.

Adminned at 21 Feb 2015 04:43:12 UTC

I’m a bit ambivalent about this one myself, but I think it’s time - with five living players remaining - that we take a serious look at ais. This might be the last opportunity to do so, and as someone who has rhetorically steered so much of the discussion I think it’s important to at least consider the question formally.

The case against ais would be as follows:

  • The gap between ais’ actions and rhetoric has been great. He has consistently pushed for decisions to be made on the basis of personal utility as divined from Clearance, but has only accused players who are no threat to him on that basis, and have ignored those players from whose misfortune he has most to gain. He claims to be hunting Androids, but even this runs contrary to his previous statements, where he said that he would be seeking cross-factional alliances. (As the player who, I think it’s probably fair to say, has borne the brunt of ais’ attentions to date, I can attest that he has made no attempt to leverage his certainties about my role.)
  • He has used his own credibility to endow shaky theories with the weight of truth, with only that credibility holding them together. The Brendan / Sylphrena dichotomy still rests on the assumption that ais is telling the truth.
  • As an expansion to the last point, ais has promoted the idea of a factionalised game with himself as the honest broker. This has largely protected _Fox_ and Sylphrena from scrutiny while focusing attention arbitrarily on those deemed to be in the “other” faction. Again, the evidence of this factionalisation is sketchy. I admit, I feel emotionally like it might be true, but I can’t pin down much evidence of it, beside weak patterns of players agreeing with each other. This may be distracting us all from a relatively straightforward attempt to win along Human / Android lines - Bucky’s Euphoric play being an example, which ais noticed but did nothing to prevent.

So it’s not a super-strong case, and in truth I will probably waive my explicit author vote on this one. But I wanted to give people the opportunity to consider whether ais is an honest broker, or whether there is harder evidence of his humanity elsewhere that I have missed.

In any case, for the sake of form: I accuse ais523 of being an Android.


Josh: he/they

20-02-2015 16:56:42 UTC

Author vote:  imperial


20-02-2015 21:26:21 UTC

Ooh, Josh is actually trying to win!

At this point, the dynasty’s completely come down to considerations other than Human/Android. Thus, an unexplained against. At this point, everyone who needs to know why knows why. I’ll explain for people watching after the dynasty’s over.


20-02-2015 21:28:06 UTC

And Josh, even though this won’t make sense right now: sorry, and thank you.

Josh: he/they

20-02-2015 23:37:06 UTC

No probs for

Brendan: he/him

21-02-2015 00:04:15 UTC



21-02-2015 00:08:33 UTC

And that’s the two Androids voting FOR, because they know Disabling me is needed for an Android victory.


21-02-2015 00:18:28 UTC

@Josh: It is mathematically certain, at this point, that if you’re not an Android, the remaining Androids are two out of {Brendan, ais523, Sylphrena}.

So why are you voting on the Trial to disable _Fox_?


21-02-2015 00:19:15 UTC

Also, I’m happy that if this game were Werewolf, I would have won along with the Humans. I figured that Josh+Brendan were the Androids ages ago.


21-02-2015 00:20:13 UTC

(Finally, we’re now past the point where I can reasonably seek an agreement with Josh. I can’t imagine a circumstance in which our goals aren’t utterly opposed to each other. Josh, if you have a suggestion in mind that benefits me and also benefits you, I’d like to hear it, but I don’t think there is one.)


21-02-2015 00:27:26 UTC

Oh bleh, too late, Josh has won.

Brendan, if you see this, CoV. Otherwise you’re going to lose the Dynasty.


21-02-2015 00:28:28 UTC

(So that first phaser shot, that took out Bucky, was from Brendan. I had to hope it was from Josh. Either that, or Brendan has decided to go for an Android victory even though it’s counterproductive.)


21-02-2015 00:42:04 UTC

Josh has posted elsewhere but hasn’t answered this. That should be proof that this Trial is in bad faith.


21-02-2015 01:59:02 UTC



21-02-2015 02:10:24 UTC

against The Trial exists to distract from the real issues at hand.