Friday, April 05, 2013

Proposal: By the Grace of Coin

Reaches Quorum and passes 10-0 -Larrytheturtle

Adminned at 05 Apr 2013 19:45:32 UTC

Change the last paragraph of the rule entitled “Titles” to the following:

The Peerage wiki page denotes the available Titles and their hierarchy, and tracks the Nobles who hold those Titles. Titles which are not currently held by a Noble are Abeyant. If Title A has Lordship or High Lordship over Title B, Title A is said to be Above Title B and Title B is Below Title A.

Add a new rule entitled “Wealth”:

Each Noble has a numerical statistic called Wealth, defaulting to 10.

Add a subrule to that rule, entitled “Bribery”:

A Noble whose Family isn’t “-” may spend 4 Wealth to obtain an Abeyant Barony Below the Dukedom corresponding to their Family.

If an Earldom is Abeyant, a Baron who holds a Barony below that Earldom may obtain that Earldom by spending 8 Wealth and transferring 1 Wealth to each Vassal they gain through that Earldom (which may cause them to transfer to the same Noble multiple times).

If a Dukedom is Abeyant, an Earl who holds an Earldom below that Dukedom may obtain that Dukedom by spending 12 Wealth and transferring 2 Wealth to each Vassal they gain through that Dukedom (which may cause them to transfer to the same Noble multiple times).

Create the Dukedoms “Duke of York” and “Duke of Lancaster”.

If someone could compile a period-appropriate list of titles, that would be really helpful.


RaichuKFM: she/her

05-04-2013 14:40:08 UTC



05-04-2013 15:45:41 UTC


I like money.


05-04-2013 18:19:17 UTC



05-04-2013 20:32:49 UTC



05-04-2013 21:19:03 UTC

for As long as buying votes never becomes legal.

Josh: he/they

05-04-2013 21:19:59 UTC



05-04-2013 21:45:15 UTC

for I’m with nqeron.

Clucky: he/him

05-04-2013 22:36:34 UTC

against My big issue is the landrush this creates on the newly added Dukedoms. As far as I understand, whoever is on right after the proposal passes gets them.

Another slight problem is the “to each Vassal they gain through that Earldom (which may cause them to transfer to the same Noble multiple times).”. I’m not sure how you can gain a Vassal twice. The Vassal requirement can be fulfilled a second time, but you don’t regain a Vassal there, they were already your Vassal.

RaichuKFM: she/her

05-04-2013 23:23:10 UTC

Clucky? Where’d you come from? Anyway, unless you already own an Earldom you can’t get a Dukedom, and before you can get an Earldom you need a Barony. The second point is valid though.

Clucky: he/him

05-04-2013 23:26:17 UTC

Ah okay I thought it was flipped for some reason. Guess that works then, other issue can be sorted out later against

Clucky: he/him

05-04-2013 23:26:30 UTC

I mean for


06-04-2013 02:34:20 UTC