Thursday, September 13, 2012

Proposal: Concerning Subrules

Self-killed. — Quirck

Adminned at 15 Sep 2012 07:45:26 UTC

If the rule “Grading” exists, add a subrule titled “Concerning Subrules” with the following text:

A rule may not cause a Student to Score if it is a parent rule, sibling rule or subrule of a rule which has previously caused the Student to Score.

Hopefully this wording prevents scoring multiply under a single dynastic rule. I had considered allowing siblings rules, but I imagine sibling rules would be tied closely to one another, making a second score easier than it ought to be.

posted by Spice at 13 Sep 2012 16:21:25 UTC Comments (12)

Comments

Josh: Mastermind he/they

13-09-2012 17:05:07 UTC

for

Klisz:

13-09-2012 17:30:11 UTC

for

Bucky:

13-09-2012 17:33:41 UTC

against  on sibling rules,  for on the rest.

GreyWithAnE:

13-09-2012 17:35:50 UTC

for We’ll just have to be careful specifying Rule/subrule.

But are we sure this doesn’t break the system because all Dynastic rules are technically subrules or something?

quirck: he/him

13-09-2012 17:46:39 UTC

“Rule
Each individually numbered section of the ruleset is a rule, including sections that are sub-rules of other rules.”
Section 2. Dynastic Rules. It is a rule by this definition.

“Sibling Rule
Two rules are “siblings” of each other if they are both direct subrules of the same rule.”
So dynastic rules 2.X are all siblings. Right?

Josh: Mastermind he/they

13-09-2012 17:48:00 UTC

Ha, that’s fun.

Klisz:

13-09-2012 18:44:39 UTC

against  per quirck.

Spice:

13-09-2012 19:05:43 UTC

against Self-kill then. I took Dynastic Rules to not be a rule itself due to the lack of its own content.

Ragnar Danneskjöld:

14-09-2012 05:43:51 UTC

re Bucky’s vote: are we allowed to “line-item vote” on proposals? e.g., can voters conceivably pass part of a rule while not passing the rest, thus potentially passing a rule that has a different wording than the author intended?

This does not seem like it’s legal, but I was just curious because that seems to be how Bucky voted.

Ely:

14-09-2012 09:14:34 UTC

Ragnar: No you can’t (the last vote in the post is the valid one) unless the author worded the Proposal in such a way that it is possible, like:

if more than half of the EVC’s on this Proposal contain the sentence “The siblings as well”, add to said subrule: “This applies to sibling rules as well”

There have been multiple choice Proposals also.
They are not very popular.

Bucky:

15-09-2012 04:32:04 UTC

It basically means I’d vote for a proposal to change that one thing, but like the rest enough to vote FOR.

Murphy:

15-09-2012 14:01:37 UTC

against