Wednesday, July 23, 2025

Proposal: Curtain down

enacted 7+1 v 1, subrule immediately repealed, upholded nothing - chiiika.

Reopened by Kevan as this was enacted before 24 hours were up.

Enacted again by JonathanDark.

Adminned at 24 Jul 2025 21:09:01 UTC

Add a new dynastic rule to the ruleset, called Turn To Page 48 For The Solutions:

The Puzzler is, at their discretion, permitted to disclose the following information during or after the interregnum immediately following the Sixth Dynasty of JonathanDark:

* All of the Buzzwords
* Their own opinions about which Backronyms were poorly served and deserved to do better


If a Declaration of Victory was enacted between the posting and the enacting of this proposal, immediately repeal the above rule, and uphold any disclosures that would have been legal had this propsal been enacted before said Declaration of Victory.

I’m torn on Favourites, but fall down on it being at the discresion of the players in question.

Comments

Bucky:

23-07-2025 20:28:26 UTC

This should include everyone’s Favorites too.

JonathanDark: he/him

23-07-2025 20:30:53 UTC

Make it an “if a quorum of Wordsmiths’ EVC contain Favorites” then add Favorites to the list.

Josh: he/they

23-07-2025 20:36:12 UTC

Nah, I don’t like riders and my own opinion is that it should be up to each player to decide if they want to reveal their favourites.

DoomedIdeas: he/him

23-07-2025 21:17:26 UTC

for

JonathanDark: he/him

23-07-2025 21:18:01 UTC

imperial

Darknight: he/him

23-07-2025 21:23:00 UTC

for

Bucky:

23-07-2025 22:30:55 UTC

for

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

24-07-2025 02:03:29 UTC

for

Chiiika: she/her

24-07-2025 02:15:06 UTC

for

Kevan: Yard he/him

24-07-2025 07:57:58 UTC

for but (with the DoV likely to enact before this does) it does have the same issue as the CfJ. I don’t know how much views vary on this, but it seems important to me that we can’t and shouldn’t encourage the Puzzler to ignore “This is the Ruleset for BlogNomic; all Wordsmiths shall obey it” during voting and take a reveal action that the rules say he may not take, on the grounds that a pending proposal is (very probably) going to absolve him of having broken that rule, a little later.

Josh: he/they

24-07-2025 08:40:14 UTC

@Kevan This is a fuzzy area in the ruleset in general. On its face, post-Ascension, the ruleset can’t prevent the current Emperor from disclosing whatever they like, as the information they hold will cease to be gamestate. Even the specific prohibition that prevents me from disclosing private information from the Venetian dynasty has no actual effect. The ruleset simply doesn’t have a mechanism to prevent the eventual disclosure of information.

That makes any vote like this essentially symbolic. It’s an act of social permission, not really a mechanic.

Chiiika: she/her

24-07-2025 08:44:54 UTC

pulling from the CfJ - I am unsure if this can be passed because of the dynastic ruleset modification clause that bar it from being able to be passed in Interregnum.

Kevan: Yard he/him

24-07-2025 09:04:48 UTC

[Josh] Oh, sure, a vote on “JonathanDark is hereby given permission to reveal this information after the dynasty ends” would seem entirely fair and socially binding. And it’s probably safe to regard all FOR votes on this proposal to be also implying that, really.

I just don’t think “JonathanDark is hereby absolved of any illegal actions he performed between this proposal being posted and being enacted” works, in a game that requires us to obey the rules at all times.

JonathanDark: he/him

24-07-2025 13:38:51 UTC

I’ll just treat this as a social contract, then, and wait until after the dynastic reset.

I may wait for the initial flurry of new dynasty proposals as well. I don’t want to overly distract from the momentum of a new dynasty.

Chiiika: she/her

24-07-2025 16:03:33 UTC

against because the current Puzzler have no way to reveal this

JonathanDark: he/him

24-07-2025 16:20:14 UTC

More than that: the term “Puzzler” currently has no meaning, nevermind the rest of the terminology in this Proposal.

Hence why I’m going to treat this as a social contract and not as compulsion via rules.

Bucky:

24-07-2025 16:43:23 UTC

CoV against

Chiiika: she/her

24-07-2025 16:44:05 UTC

wait,  for to clear the queue

Kevan: Yard he/him

24-07-2025 17:28:34 UTC

Chiiika then enacted the proposal, but it wasn’t yet 24 hours old. (We switched to a minimum of 24 hours before enacting proposals back in April, if you missed it.) I’ve reopened it.

This means that it now needs to run for 24 hours 40 minutes, as it was closed to voting for 40 minutes.