I worry this’ll make people more likely to become bloodthirsty. Can we also increase the cap on bloodthirstiness?

Its also a bit weird that someone at 13 would go to 16, but someone at 14 would stay at 14.

This is less likely to cause accidental bloodthirst than the previous situation was – a flat +3 is more predictable than a random number of +2s based on how often the Library gets visited, so it’s easier to schedule your actions around.

As such, I think any raising of the cap should be a separate proposal, not tied to this one.

some people already have a lot of denizens. this puts them at increased risk of going over

increasing the amount you get for free alongside the cap feels like the neutral play. Its a bit more advantageous to the people without denizens, getting 2 or 4 puissance probably more important than if you get 7 or 9 puissance.

not increasing the cap puts this too strongly in the favor of people who don’t have denizens or other money engines built up.

Denizens also give you a predictable gain.

This doesn’t increase the risk of going over compared to the situation before Raven’s Blood Frenzies. Apart from the Stair Muncher (which knocked almost everyone over the last time it got hit), there are very few sources of unpredictable Puissance gain around nowadays, and a predictable gain is much less likely to send players over than an unpredictable gain is.

sure, but you also have to keep in mind a lot of us don’t really have a benefit in passing this thing right now.

we can throw up a bunch of denizens in the fitness center, leave you resource starved, and be at an advantage. So this proposal really does need something that will actually get the people who have a lot of denizens or other resources to vote for it.

why the for josh even though this has clear strategic gameplay advantages for players with less puissance generation?

remember: the Shattered stairway will collapse next run, giving everyone who has a sigil there 2 puissance.

add that to the 3 from this makes 5. seems very easy for a couple of trips to the library to send anyone with a decent number of industrious denizens to go over the limit and not really get any benefit out of this

@Clucky I’m surprised I have to say this but: starving half the players for tactical benefit also has a tactical dimension, so abstaining isn’t a neutral act, and also starving half the players for tactical benefit is very bad for the game, so I’d rather take a position on this.

abstaining and letting the game play out is by definition is a neutral act

(granted you’re also currently voting for https://blognomic.com/archive/enough_stalling which arguably has tactical components to it, so maybe youre just okay with making tactical moves if you think it makes the game better which is fine)

Noting that this proposal was written before it was revealed that the Library of Souls hadn’t been Blood Frenzied after all.