Monday, June 12, 2017

Proposal: Have You Heard The Bad News?

Reaches quorum 5-0. Enacted by pokes.

Adminned at 12 Jun 2017 21:47:39 UTC

Enact a new rule, “Conspiracies”:-

An Explorer who is a Cultist or a Scholar may Conspire to convert another Explorer by sending a private message to the Expedition Leader with this intention. At any time when two or more Explorers are conspiring against the same Explorer, the Expedition Leader may resolve the effects of all such Conspiracies, in sequence:

  • If two or more Scholars are conspiring against the same Cultist, that Cultist becomes a Scholar instead of a Cultist.
  • If two or more Cultists are conspiring against the same Scholar, that Scholar becomes a Cultist instead of a Scholar.
  • If two or more Explorers are conspiring against the same Explorer, and that Explorer is neither a Scholar nor a Cultist, then all of these Conspiring Explorers become Untrustworthy.

When one or more Explorers become Untrustworthy, the Expedition Leader must announce this in a blog post. If an Explorer is Untrustworthy, they may no longer Conspire against other Explorers.

Upon the Expedition Leader resolving Conspiracies, the Leader must post a blog entry announcing this, and privately inform any Explorers if their Backgrounds have changed. Upon the blog entry being posted, all Explorers cease Conspiring.

posted by Kevan at 12 Jun 2017 09:07:00 UTC Comments (8)

Comments

Cpt_Koen:

12-06-2017 11:17:13 UTC

for What happens if an Explorer who is both a Cultist and a Scholar takes part in a conspiration?

Kevan: he/him

12-06-2017 14:29:47 UTC

I think that’s okay, isn’t it? They can convert in either direction depending on who they team up with. And if they get converted themselves and become a double-Cultist or double-Scholar, I don’t think that actually breaks anything.

Madrid:

12-06-2017 15:00:44 UTC

Scholars are likely to all just voluntarily turn into Cultists, because that will increase their chances to win by joining a larger, even more powerful group.

Scholars are also going to have a hard time using this power for ‘good’ - the Cultists have much more venues for coordination, and this ability that heavily relies on coordination (having another ally with your same background and targeting the same guy).

It feels a lot like “The Day of the Thing”: http://ludocity.org/wiki/Day_of_the_Thing and how the game often devolves into people just voluntarily surrendering themselves to the larger mob.

It’s a very easy way to “win” - just get a Cultist bloc large enough to proposal-win, and win.

So for, because, well. Winning. I hope we have a Quorum amount of Scholars+Cultists to get this to pass, convert the Scholars, then get a Cthulu victory.

Cpt_Koen:

12-06-2017 15:29:04 UTC

Cuddlebeam: Hadn’t we established that you were an Adventurer and a Spy? hmmmmmmmmmmmmm…

orkboi:

12-06-2017 16:01:29 UTC

Scholarship is a lonely business. I can’t determine the value of this proposal on my own. Perhaps if I had a research partner?

card:

12-06-2017 16:10:25 UTC

for That’s pretty interesting, it will probably decide who wins.

Madrid:

12-06-2017 16:22:29 UTC

Pokes is a very likely Scholar too (or Cultist, doesn’t matter). He posted “jolly” back then.

Me and Orkboi are soft-claiming to be Scholars/Cultists. I know of at least one other person who I can nearly guarantee to be a scholar (lets call them X).

We need 5 to reach Quorum.

With Kevan, Orkboi, Pokes, Me and X, that’s Quorum and a (Cthulu) win (unless there is some counter-scam or something).

We can just not vote greentick for the Cthulu win proposal and be liars, but there’s an easy way to find the liars - Just make the Cthulu win proposal after this passes.

pokes:

12-06-2017 21:34:26 UTC

for but what happens if a Scholar-Cultist gets converted to, say, Cultist? They currently can’t have just one background, so perhaps the conspiracy resolves to nothing, as it’s an illegal action?