vetoed—Yoda
Adminned at 17 Dec 2008 20:11:52 UTC
Per rule “2.7 The End” the Protagonist has died (by being shot by Arthexis) and thus, no one can win the Dynasty. So, I propose that the current Dynasty ends and a new Dynasty begins instead.
Characters become Players. The Narrator becomes the Emperor. Remove all Dynastic Rules.
“If this sum is less than or equal to 0, the Protagonist dies and a new metadynasty begins.” is also against this proposal. The metadynasty only starts if the Protagonist dies through The End.
Oh, and we may still make it to the time when Jason would normally die.
Oh, and Yoda may just remove your seed. He has powers like that.
Lets let Yoda decide.
But take the next sentence: ” If the Protagonist has not died, the Character with the most PP (of the Characters with a Relationship greater than 0) achieves victory. If two or more of those Characters tie for the most plot points then the Character in the tie with the higher Relationship achieves victory. In the event that causes another tie the players who tied for both shall roll DICEX, where X is relationship + PP for each player. “
This is the only way to achieve victory in the ruleset. Since the Protagonist is dead, no one can achieve victory.
Oh, and how does Jason die before he will die? Please don’t mess up the future.
“There exists a wiki document called the Plot Summary whose contents have no direct effect on gamestate.”
Ha!
Basically, Jason’s life is gamestate, as it effects the game directly.
Therefore, Jason cannot die through the Plot Summary page.
It says “direct effect”. Yet, this is not really a direct effect, more like a side effect actually.
Darth: No, Yoda and I had a pretty big war at the start of my dynasty.
He declared victory after I won the previous dynasty, but before my dynasty started.
That led to a mess.
Yay, almost 20 responses in less than five minutes… yeah, I know how to keep players on their toes ;)
It is a pretty direct effect.
Jason dying in plot summary page is being used to mean Jason dies in gamestate. You are trying to directly effect the gamestate with the plot summary page.
It’s not direct. Direct would be if “Jason dies in plot” automatically causes “Jason dies in gamestate”. Here, “Jason dies in plot” leads to “Jason dies in gamestate” through the proposal.
Yeah, Jason can’t be killed via plot summary posting.
And in any case, assuming a plot summary post had any real meaning beyond dramatic impetus, someone could just as easily post
...or so Arthexis thought!
after yours.
Anyhow, it ends in 20 hours. Let it be. ;)
Darth: What I see is a proposal saying that Jason’s death in the plot means that Jason dies in the gamestate, a direct effect. This proposal is really more like CfJ material: a clarification of the rules.
DC—
Then, Arthexis would have to amend the ruleset (specifically “The End”), not just post a proposal declaring Smith dead.
Well, I salute Amnistar for creatively messing with my ability to win.
Plus, this would not create a metadynasty. It would create a new dynasty with the same Emperor, as the emperor is not changed.
No, I was Yoda’s enemy for a bit…wait…Yoda has access to all GNDT passwords…HE COULD BE IMPERSONATING US ALL IN THE GNDT!!!
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You guys are just asking me to abuse my powers…
Rodlen: