Wednesday, February 01, 2012

Proposal: Lets Harominze

Times out 8-5 and is enacted. -coppro

Adminned at 03 Feb 2012 15:31:34 UTC

Add a new dynastic rule called “Harmony” and give it the following text

Each Musician has a integer stat called “Harmony” which is initially zero.

If there is not currently a pending Harmony Attempt posted, any Band Member may make a Story Post with the title “Harmony Attempt”. The Harmony Attempt is considered pending until the set of Band Members changes (either by a Musician switching from Band Member to Hanger On or vice versa or by a Band Member going idle) or until it is resolved by the Frontman. The Frontman may resolve a pending Harmony Attempt at any time. When the Frontman resolves a pending Harmony Attempt, if all Band Members have the same style, the Frontman must increase the Harmony of each of the Band Members by one. If there are two Band Members with different styles, the Frontman must decrease the Harmony of the Band Member who made the Harmony Attempt by one. In either case, the Frontman must make a comment on the pending Harmony Attempt as to which way he resolved it, then reassign each Band Member a new style via the process used for new Musicians. All Band Members then become Hangers On and four DICEN are rolled where N is the number of Musicians. For each die, if a K is rolled the Kth Musician as appears in the GNDT becomes a Band Member.

This adds a bunch more work for Koen, so completely understand if he wants to lay down the veto.

Not rewarding the poster for being right (anymore so than the rest of the band) while punishing him for being wrong was intended. Don’t want people just randomly guessing, and like the chicken idea of “Well if youre so sure we’re the same style, YOU make the post”.

Might need to tweak some of the band mechanics to easier to vote people out for this to work. If I know DK and me are rock, and Kevan knows Bucky and him are techno and we’re all in the band, no one is gonna get anywhere. But at least this starts giving us some mechanics to work with. A simple majority votes to kick someone out would work.

posted by Clucky at 01 Feb 2012 18:14:33 UTC Comments (17)

Comments

ChronosPhaenon:

01-02-2012 19:14:41 UTC

imperial

omd:

01-02-2012 20:34:20 UTC

against

southpointingchariot:

01-02-2012 21:12:26 UTC

against

Cpt_Koen:

01-02-2012 23:38:32 UTC

for
I don’t mind the extra work; I chosed to run a more-or-less-mafia-like dynasty - and I guess it is still lighter than being an Admin.
I like the idea, and the fact that Musicians won’t keep their style forever (which is really not something I had thought of).

However, this would encourage to find one other guy of the same Style, and kick everyone out, since you’d prefer to have as few Musicians as possible to get the extra Harmony.
Which is, I think, not a good thing. I would certainly prefer a reward going up with the number of Musicians still in the Band.

I also believe I could use this to make anyone I want win: two Musicians who know they are of the same style make fifty Harmony Attempts saying they are of the same style; I give them one point each for the first, then use the “at any time the Frontman may resolve an Harmony Attempt” to give them two points for the second BEFORE I do the “then reassign each Band Member a new style via the process used for new Musicians”.

Clucky: he/him

02-02-2012 01:32:16 UTC

“If there is not currently a pending Harmony Attempt posted…” they cannot another harmony attempt it ceases to be pending, which requires you to resolve it (or change the band)

I agree with you on the “not rewarding big bands” thing. Maybe give them N harmony where N is the size of the band?

It still feels like someone could go “Well, the five rock people are gonna kick me out if they find out I’m Techno. I can either lose 1 Harmony or let them all get 5…” so maybe the punishment for a failed attempt should just be you have to leave the band?  (and lose a Harmony. Style and band members would only get reset when someone is right).

Bucky:

02-02-2012 01:54:36 UTC

against because I don’t think dissolving the band should be that easy.

Cpt_Koen:

02-02-2012 02:23:38 UTC

How about:
- N Harmony each, where N is the size of the band
- only dissolve the Band if the answer was yes, you’re all of the same style

This way it is in the interest of the one Techno guy to pretend he’s a Rock. Which looks way more like what was intended for the dynasty.

Darknight: he/him

02-02-2012 06:43:08 UTC

imperial

Kevan: he/him

02-02-2012 10:19:50 UTC

for Although I agree that dissolving the Band each time seems a bit much.

Kevan: he/him

02-02-2012 12:28:57 UTC

Randomising styles may also be a bit much. I’ll propose a tweak.

Cpt_Koen:

02-02-2012 14:46:30 UTC

Also I’d suggest refering to the “Current Active Players” list in the sidebar instead of the GNDT.

Greytyphoon:

02-02-2012 21:20:07 UTC

imperial

Spitemaster:

02-02-2012 23:29:42 UTC

for

Josh: Observer he/they

03-02-2012 07:59:08 UTC

for

PBURNS:

03-02-2012 16:41:20 UTC

against It would change people’s styles way too often the way it is written now. I am in favor of the N harmony for N members as well as only penalizing the person who submitted the Harmony Attempt for an invalid attempt.

Cpt_Koen:

03-02-2012 18:06:36 UTC

Or we could make it +N for everyone in case of success and, in case of failure, -N total, divided among the multiple authors of the Attempt:
The Musician posting the Harmony Attempt could include the names of other Musicians in the post (some kind of “ON BEHALF OF…”), as long as he has their explicit agreement for doing so.

scshunt:

03-02-2012 23:30:00 UTC

against