Monday, April 18, 2011

Proposal: Lord of the Field

Passes at 15-3. -Purplebeard

Adminned at 20 Apr 2011 01:31:10 UTC

Add a new subrule to the rule “Land” if it exists.  Call the new rule “Takeover” and give it the following text:

If any Sheep owns more Land than all other Sheep combined, that Sheep achieves victory.



04-18-2011 17:11:02 UTC



04-18-2011 17:13:50 UTC

against  I just don’t like it, no other reason.
Nothing personal :)

Josh: HE/HIM

04-18-2011 17:25:49 UTC



04-18-2011 17:40:22 UTC

for CoV


04-18-2011 18:39:14 UTC

for If this is a scam, and nobody figures out what it is by the time it enacts, the resulting win would be sufficiently impressive that it would almost certainly be deserved.

If it isn’t, it’s unlikely to be achieved without either some amazing gameplay, or a scam, later. (It needn’t be the only victory condition of the dynasty, by the way.)

I will check to see if there’s a scam here, though (and other people should too), and veto it if I spot one.


04-18-2011 18:41:36 UTC



04-18-2011 18:51:06 UTC


Darknight: HE/HIM

04-18-2011 20:45:43 UTC



04-19-2011 00:38:37 UTC



04-19-2011 00:49:44 UTC

If there were 6 sheep working together it could be a scam. However, from what I’ve seen so far it wouldn’t make sense for Bucky to be one of the six. So I doubt it’s a scam, and if it is one, it’s clever enough to be deserved. Also, I’m not one of the six.


04-19-2011 00:49:56 UTC



04-19-2011 01:35:28 UTC

for Travis, why six? Scams are perfectly capable of being single-person. Ever since 2009’s “Operation Meerkat” (which landed ais523 his first dynasty), it’s become a bit of an unspoken tradition to have four.


04-19-2011 02:43:11 UTC



04-19-2011 03:21:56 UTC

[Darth Cliche] Well I see a way that six Sheep (maybe five now due to change in quorum) could conspire for one of them to DoV right after this is enacted. I don’t see a way that 4 could do it, but there certainly could be an I’m just not seeing it.


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04-19-2011 05:49:24 UTC


Kevan: HE/HIM

04-19-2011 06:44:38 UTC

[Travis] Do you mean that the six richest players could pool their Baabucks to transfer a lot of Land to a single Sheep? It looks like they’d need 30 Baabucks for that, ten more than they have. And six is stretching it for a potential scam - given that these six players are (more or less) the six who’ve been playing the game most seriously so far, they’re unlikely to give up their position to a rival. (Even if they agree to roll a six-sided die to assign the win to a random conspirator, each player would have to concede that that they themselves stood less than a 1-in-6 chance of winning by other means.)

[Darth] “Unspoken tradition”? Scams just run on the minimum number of players required to perform all of their actions, I don’t think anyone ever risks recruiting extra accomplices for the sake of “tradition”.

Kevan: HE/HIM

04-19-2011 06:44:58 UTC



04-19-2011 07:33:51 UTC

for Hey now, I refute this allegation that I’m playing the game seriously.

Darth Cliche: Seriously, what? Flicking through the dynastic history pages, I can’t find any evidence to support your claim. The data strongly supports Kevan’s saner hypothesis instead: all (or at least most, as these pages probably aren’t 100% accurate) successful cooperative victory attempts since ais523’s first involved 2 or 3 players, the bare minimum in each case.


04-19-2011 11:23:45 UTC



04-19-2011 13:44:41 UTC


That’s not what I had in mind. I saw that “Pastures New” was not contingent on “Own your own Meadow” becoming a rule. Basically, if several Sheep CoV’d on the “Own your own Meadow”, failing it at the last minute, but “Pastures New” still passed and someone got permission to be Clodhopper or simply waited out the 48 hours, the Clodhopper could assign 1 lot of land to themselves and DoV, as 1 is greater than 0*23. Now that the Meadow proposal passed it can’t be done.

Kevan: HE/HIM

04-19-2011 13:52:40 UTC

[Travis] Ha, very clever.


04-19-2011 16:05:27 UTC

against Not enough wording to convince me it’s gimmicky.


04-19-2011 16:05:40 UTC

to convince me it’s NOT gimmicky*