BlogNomic: The First Dynasty of Desertfrog

What does this do?  Nothing.

Quote of Doom time!!!

“Rules existing only in a Faction’s Ruleset have no effect outside that Faction’s Gamestate and Ruleset. “

Well, shouldn’t the GNDT be fixed?

But isn’t the GNDT tracking each Faction’s gamestate?

Yes, but only the Blo faction members have bones to break…WHAT THE HECK DID I JUST SAY!?!

According to Blo, every citizen has bones to break, and this is part of Blo’s gamestate.

“A Citizen is considered to be idle within each Faction that e doesn’t belong to.”

KILLER QUOTE OF DOOM!!!

The GNDT is tracking all of Blo’s fractures.  The fractures are in the Blo ruleset, meaning they only effect Blo.  In the faction rulesets, only those factions’ members are not considered idle.

Ok, but where within Blo does it say that Idle Citizens don’t have a defined number of Fractures?

“For the purposes of the Ruleset, excluding Rules 1.1, 1.2 and 1.8, Idle Citizens are not counted as Citizens.”

Only cause this doesn’t do a thing if it does pass. Word of help. When making a CfJ, make it do something if it passes.

“Rules existing only in a Faction’s Ruleset have no effect outside that Faction’s Gamestate and Ruleset.”

DYNASTIC FREAKING RULE.

THAT MEANS THAT NON-BLO MEMBERS DON’T USE THE FREAKING FRACTURE RULE.

THAT MEANS THAT FRACTURES ARE NOT DEFINED FOR NON-BLO MEMBERS.

Never again do I want to use the same quote twice in the same post.

Yoda, got it. Sorry about this.

Rodlen, Factions can still define attributes on Citizens that are not Idle in the wider context of BlogNomic, and just because it wouldn’t have an effect outside of the faction, doesn’t mean it’s not defined.

The rule has no effect outside Blo.  Therefore, it does not effect non-Blo members.  Therefore, non-Blo members do not use the rule.  Because they don’t use the rule, they don’t get the rule’s stat defined on them.

Yoda, I managed to misread that as “for the purposes of 1.1, 1.2, and 1.8, Idle Citizens are not counted…” when I saw that rule in the Ruleset :/

Rodlen, it doesn’t put any obligations on non-Blo members, but that doesn’t mean Blo doesn’t believe that the rule’s stat is defined on them. In this case, it’s not defined on them because it’s not defined on Idle Citizens, but if Blo wished to, it could define the attribute on idle citizens, but only Blo would recognize it.

“Factions can still define attributes on Citizens that are not Idle in the wider context of BlogNomic”

Factions can’t effect people outside their faction.  What you are describing is a faction effecting people outside of it, which it can’t.

But that doesn’t mean that a Faction can’t pretend to itself that it is effecting someone. Its gamestate could in theory, for example, say “Sgeo has 100 Fractures” even though it wouldn’t actually have an effect on me, and other factions wouldn’t recognize those Fractures.

“but if Blo wished to, it could define the attribute on idle citizens, but only Blo would recognize it.”

That, sir, would be effecting people outside of your faction, which you can’t do.

“Sgeo has 100 Fractures”

Powerless.  That would be an attempt to effect someone outside of their faction.  However, if you joined Blo, you would get all of those fractures when you join them.  Not before.

But Blo would basically believe that I’d have 100 Fractures, despite me not really having those Fractures.

Yes, but it wouldn’t end up in the GNDT, as you are outside of their faction.

That would be effecting someone outside of their faction.

But the GNDT basically tracks each faction’s gamestate. The gamestate of each faction is what each faction believes, not necessarily the reality outside of that faction

Plus, think about the problems with your belief.  Lets see…I could set myself to have an extremely high stat for another faction.  I could then join that faction and keep that stat.

That…would break the game.

Since when has reality meant anything in a nomic?

The GNDT tracks each player’s gamestate, noting only things that have an effect on that player.

For another example:  As I am not a Citizen, I can’t get Fractures.  I can’t have Fractures.

You are saying that, if there was a rule in the Blo ruleset that gave me a hundred fractures, I would have those fractures.  However, I can’t.  Same with any player outside of Blo.

I mean only things that that player has.

In my first sentence, that is.

Or in much simpler words, you are saying that players that aren’t effected by rules are effected for the purpose of the GNDT, which is blatantly incorrect.

“The GNDT tracks each player’s gamestate, noting only things that have an effect on that player.”

Not each Faction’s gamestate? Sorry, got it.

I am proud of myself for causing so much rules confusion with such a simple statement.

If two factions have the same gamestate name with different factions, they in fact would need to be tracked separately, interestingly enough.