Sunday, February 16, 2020

Proposal: Paging Professor Jenkins

Vetoed. Failed by Kevan. Back to the drawing board, Jenkins.

Adminned at 18 Feb 2020 09:12:15 UTC

Repeal the rule “Similarity”. Create a Portal. Perform the atomic action described by “Portal Procedure”.

I think it’s good enough


Darknight: HE/HIM

02-16-2020 15:28:39 UTC


Kevan: HE/HIM

02-16-2020 16:23:18 UTC

Might be a small problem here in that Jenkins’ Protocol pre-dates the concept of multiple Portals: “create a Portal” used to mean “create some untracked gamestate which splits the universe and which Portal Procedure can track by updating the ruleset” but now means something else.

I think this creates a single untracked Portal which will trigger everything as before, but will just never be tracked anywhere. (The “Portals” rule only allows the tracking of Portals which were created by its own atomic action, which this isn’t.) It’ll also lack the ability to have a Strength, Source or Sign.



02-16-2020 17:58:38 UTC

Does this Orphan-lock everything?  against


02-16-2020 18:12:38 UTC

@CB - no, I don’t think so?

@Kevan - good point, but I think one that can be addressed by a patch rather than one that instantly ruins the game.

Kevan: HE/HIM

02-16-2020 19:03:04 UTC

[Cuddlebeam] We’ve already had an untracked “a portal is created” in the “Similarity” rule for a while now. I suppose both it and this proposal give us “a reasonable manner in which it can be determined from other gamestate variables”, although it’s interesting that the more time passes, the less reasonable it is to expect existing players to remember it and new players to check the archives.

Brendan: HE/HIM

02-17-2020 03:15:20 UTC



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derrick: HE/HIM

02-17-2020 14:23:26 UTC


The Duke of Waltham: HE/HIM

02-17-2020 23:05:18 UTC


Sorry, but I don’t think it’s ready yet. Perhaps there are details in the rules that can be worked out post-Divergence, but when it comes to proposals and voting, the rules ought to be tightened a bit more before splitting the rulesets.