Thursday, February 13, 2020

Proposal: Professor Jenkins

Self-killed. Failed by Brendan.

Adminned at 14 Feb 2020 00:43:51 UTC

Repeal the rule “Similarity”. Create a Portal. Perform the atomic action described by “Portal Procedure”.

Focusing our minds on whether we’re ready to do this.


Tantusar: HE/THEY

02-13-2020 09:30:08 UTC

Ah, hell with it. We’re just sort of spiralling at the moment.  for

Josh: HE/HIM

02-13-2020 10:18:27 UTC

for But the real problem is a lack of a central dynastic gameplay loop.

Kevan: HE/HIM

02-13-2020 10:24:10 UTC

Looking ahead to what will happen, is “while there is a Portal open, the default to this value should be determined through a DICE2 roll, with a value of 1 corresponding to a Polarity of -50 and a value of 2 corresponding to a Polarity of 50” going to give everyone the same Polarity, or split the group randomly?

It feels like it could be read either way, but leaning towards splitting randomly, since “the default” isn’t tracked anywhere and if someone joins the game next week we’ll need to determine the default for them at that point.


02-13-2020 12:10:15 UTC

imperial I feel the same as Josh and I’m shy to open the floodgates just yet


02-13-2020 12:10:44 UTC



02-13-2020 12:47:18 UTC


Yeh I’m not sure it’s quite ready to go, but we’ll see what happens!

Josh: HE/HIM

02-13-2020 12:50:25 UTC

@Kevan - that clause should change as a result of the passage of A couple of minor fixes - I think it doesn’t solve the underlying problem though.

Now that my mind is focused I can see a couple of problems that make me wary though. None of the steps for handling divergence seem to involve setting up the actual parallel rulesets, for example. Seems like that’s an important step… So against but I hope thata single round of fix proposals will get us up to shape.


02-13-2020 13:22:02 UTC


Kevan: HE/HIM

02-13-2020 14:21:47 UTC

[Josh] Hum, true: the Alpha and Prime rulesets are “initially identical” but it looks like no actual content is specified for them. Unless I’m missing something?

Tantusar: HE/THEY

02-13-2020 14:24:32 UTC

against gah, cov per josh

Josh: HE/HIM

02-13-2020 14:43:48 UTC

Oh, but actually @Kevan - that changes the default value, not any of our individual values, surely?

derrick: HE/HIM

02-13-2020 14:44:32 UTC


Not quite yet.

[kevan] I think it was supposed to be implied that the two initially identical rulesets contained full copies of the ruleset.

Josh: HE/HIM

02-13-2020 14:56:13 UTC

Implied, yes, but implications are useless when it comes to enacting the thing.

Kevan: HE/HIM

02-13-2020 15:16:53 UTC

[Josh] The default value is calculated on the fly, isn’t it? It’s never written down. Do we roll one DICE2 and apply the same Polarity to everyone, or roll a fresh DICE2 every time we look to see what the “default” value is?

[derrick] Yes, the original intention is definitely obvious, but I think the rule has drifted to the point where it’s not even implicit any more.

Josh: HE/HIM

02-13-2020 15:22:08 UTC

@Kevan - oh I see. The intent was to split randomly afresh for every new player, which I think the wording leans toward, but you’re right, the other reading is at least defensible.

Kevan: HE/HIM

02-13-2020 15:24:43 UTC

against Self-kill, anyway, we’ll catch back up with President Jenkins some other time.