Thursday, February 25, 2021

Proposal: Quattro Stagioni

Vetoed. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 27 Feb 2021 09:53:11 UTC

To “The Masquerade”, add:-

The period of time between two Masquerades is known as a Season.

In “Ethics of the Nobility”, replace “At any time” with “Once per Season”, and replace “sent to the Doge within 48 hours of the posting of the Rumour” with “sent to the Doge within the same Season as the posting of the Rumour”.

In “Winnowing”, replace “If they haven’t done so since the most recent Masquerade” with “Once per Season”.

If the “Campaign” rule exists:-

  • Replace “If you have 10 or more Mistrust, you can gain 1 Political Power as a Daily Action.” with “Once per Season, an Elector with 10 or more Mistrust may Machinate, gaining 3 Political Power.”
  • Replace “in the last 24 hours” with “this Season”.
  • Replace “the start of a Masquerade” with “the end of a Season”.
  • Replace “the start of 5 or more Masquerades” with “the end of 5 or more Seasons”.
  • Replace “the end of a Masquerade” with “the start of a Season”.

Replace “As a Daily Action” with “Once per Season” throughout the dynastic ruleset.

Unifying the game clock to be based around Masquerades. The Campaign stuff should probably become an atomic action, ultimately.


Josh: HE/HIM

25-02-2021 13:08:29 UTC


Josh: HE/HIM

25-02-2021 13:11:03 UTC

Although (and it’s a problem from the original) Machinating doesn’t specify a method by which it’s carried out, given that political power is a secret variable held by me

Kevan: HE/HIM

25-02-2021 13:22:27 UTC

Isn’t it covered by “any alteration of that gamestate as a result of an Elector’s action is (and can only be) applied by editing that data in that place”? I only gave it a name to make it unambiguous that it was an action rather than a limitation.


25-02-2021 13:24:35 UTC


Raven1207: HE/HIM

25-02-2021 13:33:05 UTC


Josh: HE/HIM

25-02-2021 13:41:43 UTC

@Kevan Only legally! If I’m holding that secret data then this is tacitly making it my job to keep track of when a player Machinates, as no-one else can edit it where it’s held, and they’re not required to notify me of when they’ve machinated, so… How?

Kevan: HE/HIM

25-02-2021 13:52:49 UTC

Ah, I didn’t notice it was secret. That does need fixing, then.

Clucky: HE/HIM

25-02-2021 15:48:28 UTC

Probably should instead make it so that, as part of the masquerade, Lady Pettegola makes a single post outlining all the rumors made during the previous season.

That way we don’t get rumors made with 2 hours to spare.

Clucky: HE/HIM

25-02-2021 19:16:16 UTC


Brendan: HE/HIM

25-02-2021 20:00:47 UTC


Brendan: HE/HIM

25-02-2021 20:03:30 UTC

Er, worth noting that “at any time” occurs three times in “Ethics of the Nobility,” though, and not all the replacements make sense.

Josh: HE/HIM

25-02-2021 21:23:26 UTC

Hm. Sorry Kevan but veto - between Brendan’s concerns, and Clucky’s and my own re. secret data reliant actions, this might need another pass.