Proposal: Raising the Bar [Core]
Reached quorum 7 votes to 2. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 27 Apr 2022 13:49:59 UTC
In the rule “Victory and Ascension”, replace “Every Memory of Atlantis may cast Votes on that DoV to indicate agreement or disagreement with the proposition that the poster has achieved victory in the current Dynasty.” with:-
A Memory of Atlantis’s vote on a DoV is encouraged to reflect whether or not they agree with the proposition that the poster has achieved victory in the current Dynasty.
Then replace both instances of “It is Popular” in that rule with:
It has a number of FOR Votes greater than 2/3rds of the number of Memories of Atlantis
Then add a bullet point under “may be Failed” in that rule:
* It is more than 48 hours old and cannot be Enacted
The first “encouraged” amendment here is to fix the issue that came up at the end of the last dynasty, where a player was challenged for supporting a DoV that they didn’t technically agree had worked. The “may cast Votes” clause makes it sound like this is defining the only way to vote on a DoV, but the “Votes” rule is where it actually happens, so it’s legal to vote for a DoV you think is flawed: sticking with that, the DoV line should sound less binding.
The second “popular/failed” amendment is to address the blurriness of voting on DoVs. If we accept votes where a player disagrees that the win is valid but wants to allow it (either because they feel it was close enough, or because it’s nowhere near and they’ve had enough of the dynasty), and we also accept votes where an early voter is entirely persuaded that a DoV didn’t work but tactically declines to update their vote to reflect that, and we also accept votes from new players unidling who haven’t been following the game and just want a new dynasty to start… then it’s probably easier than it should be to get a DoV over the line without a majority even agreeing that it worked. (The last dynasty was particularly unusual for ending with one or even zero players believing that the DoV was valid.)
We could try to write a strict rule that insists that everyone votes honestly and changes their vote as soon as they can, and players who missed the dynasty only vote on a DoV if they’ve read the ruleset and agree that the victory worked. But the more elegant solution might just be to slightly raise the bar that a DoV has to clear: this would mean that a few questionable votes didn’t affect the outcome so much, and would automatically move the “well, I can nearly win, shall we say I won?” gambits out into CfJs or proposals where they’d only require a regular and more achievable quorum of support - and where it’s much more obvious that people can vote how they like on them.
Lulu: she/her
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