Thursday, August 01, 2019

Proposal: Running Silent, Running Deep…

Reaches quorum, 9-0. Enacted by pokes. The first replacement is literally illegal since the source text doesn’t appear, but I did two separate replacements since I think we all know what it was meant to do. CfJ me if you need to.

Update: Oops, I had thought that the Armour values only appeared in “Fleets” and so I had changed it there, but this proposal was referring to changing it in “Armour Value and Damage”. I changed the change so it changed that, but it remains non-default in “Fleets”.

Adminned at 03 Aug 2019 15:04:54 UTC

If the proposal “Enemy Ship Sighted!” has enacted, replace the text:

Battleships have an Armour Value of 6; Submarines have an Armour Value of 3.

with the text:

Battleships have a default Armour Value of 6; Submarines have a default Armour Value of 3.

Create a rule called “The Red October”:

The Red October is a Submarine; The Red October is controlled by each Captain in turn.

At each Chart update, control of The Red October passes to the next Captain in the GNDT queue, starting initially from the top; the Captain who currently controls The Red October is recorded on the Chart; this information is updated by the Admiral at each Chart update. The Admiral privately tracks, and chooses initially, the exact location of The Red October, and will pass on this information to the controller of The Red October at each Chart update.

The position of The Red October is not marked on the Chart. The Chart will record the Quadrant The Red October is located in and its Facing; these details are recorded at each Chart update.

The first part of this proposal fixes a problem that ubq323 identified with the Armour Values in the “Enemy Ship Sighted!” proposal; adding the word ‘default’ should fix that issue.

The second part introduces a mechanic that was inspired by Kevan’s previous Moonbase dynasty, in which all the Captains will take turns to control a unique Submarine: The Red October. The Red October is not marked on the Chart as normal, instead we only know the Quadrant where it is, and its Facing (although the Admiral and The Red October’s current controller will know).

I haven’t used the phrasing “as a Maritime Action” because there are a couple of very interesting proposals pending regarding the use of this phrasing, so I haven’t used it until that gets resolved.

posted by Farsight at 01 Aug 2019 16:16:00 UTC Comments (14)

Comments

derrick: he/him

01-08-2019 17:03:23 UTC

You may wish to place the red october on the chart as part of this rule.

Farsight:

01-08-2019 17:14:23 UTC

Thanks, edited (with 3 minutes to spare!).

Farsight:

01-08-2019 17:15:17 UTC

Oh no, an hour and 3 minutes!

card:

01-08-2019 18:17:08 UTC

Technical question about the GNDT, is the order it sorts people in the same for each person? Where does it put Captains who unidle? It might be worth having it tracked in an queue in the ruleset instead of in GNDT determined order, where unidling Captains are added to the end of the queue.

derrick: he/him

01-08-2019 19:01:44 UTC

The GNDT sorts captains according to the order in which their account was made. This is only apparent if you’re an admin, but each of our accounts gets a number when its created, which as far as I can tell is sequential.

So Kevan is first because he’s been here (on and off) from the beginning. Ienpw III has some history way back, including leadin a dynasty in 2010. Cuddlebeam, I, and card all joined towards the end of the plague dynasty back in spring 2017. I’m unsure of Quincunx’s history, but he was in the plague dynasty when we joined.

So yeah, its pretty much by seniority in the game. It probably has at least some correlation with actual age, but I’m sure its not perfect.

derrick: he/him

01-08-2019 20:03:24 UTC

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Well, lets use a communal submarine. It certainly adds a certain asymmetry to each watch.

ubq323:

01-08-2019 20:08:09 UTC

for I like the idea

Farsight:

01-08-2019 20:32:56 UTC

Throughout the rules I’ve proposed so far, I’ve referred to submarines in general, but the communal sub has a specific name. This leaves the rules open to having other, generic submarines in the future if we wanted.

Quincunx:

01-08-2019 21:33:56 UTC

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(I joined just a couple of months before then, during the gerrymandering dynasty.)

Thunder: he/him

01-08-2019 21:35:53 UTC

for Communal submarines sound good for negotiations and other kinds of fun.

TyGuy6:

02-08-2019 02:33:25 UTC

for

card:

02-08-2019 04:58:33 UTC

for

Kevan: he/him

02-08-2019 08:07:08 UTC

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“The GNDT sorts captains according to the order in which their account was made.” - close enough in most cases, but it actually sorts them in the order that they appear in the log of GNDT actions. The GNDT log only goes back a few years, and should probably be cleaned out (but I guess not right now as it would change the October order).

pokes:

03-08-2019 14:38:12 UTC

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