Hard against; sellers not having enough bucks sounds like a problem exclusively for those who overspent on houses.

If you want the rest of the players to bail you out then you should compensate us for the opportunity cost of having missed out on the auctions that you won with overbidding.

*Attendees not having enough Bucks

Congratulations, you pla- Fool’s Golded yourself.

To be honest, I just got a lucky roll
So here we are using one proposal slot to definitively show that Charisma has been locked

Josh, the point here is that it’s definitively that Charisma has been locked, so you’re not getting to see how Charisma could function on your comment of No Blank Realtors

Sure, but Nomic is a game where you need people to vote on your proposals. I understand how you got to where you are but why should I vote on it? I lost out on the Charisma dice roll and lost out on an opportunity to buy property because you bid high, why should I vote to help you out with your high Charisma and expensive property?

If any changes can be seen as bailout for Fool’s Gold, then let’s close that design space off

The Proposal has done what’s needed, Withdrawn

I just need you to show that you’re unwilling to resolve that issue for whatever reasons.

I don’t think the main objection here is the charisma rider, it’s that those of us who don’t have houses yet have no incentive to vote for increasing the value of houses. It both advantages people who already bought houses and makes new houses more expensive for the rest of us.

Yeah, you’re being weirdly absolute about this Chiiika - I was very clear that I wouldn’t vote for a proposal that helped you and not me, and why should I?

If your proposal fails then sometimes that’s on you. It’s not our job to help you out of a jam; if you want the proposal to pass, maybe make it so it doesn’t help you and hinder everyone else?

I proposed a solution on another proposal that I wrote to hinder myself just 28 hrs before - was on 4/2

*on 2/4, so it’s not simply a fact about me helping myself here

I still can’t pass when I’m actively hindering myself

Just to continue normal gameplay

It barely hinders you - you’d still have 15 charisma, higher than almost anyone even after rerolls, and would still have a property that none of us got because we were bidding on the basis of the economy as it is

Charisma isn’t currently a problem for me, as it doesn’t mean anything. Frankly, the optimal approach for me is to oppose it ever becoming anything, and that interest is served by people mostly having lower Charismas.

No worries, so to continue gameplay as usual for me it has been demonstrated to be axing the whole Charisma part

No worries, so to continue gameplay as usual for me it has been demonstrated to be axing the whole Charisma part

Nothing has “been shown”, you have attained the opinions of a tiny minority of players.

You may have declared defeat a little too easily here, but that’s your business I guess!

I don’t know how can I not declaring defeat when I’m playing with everyone defaulting on redcrossing me in a game of Nomic.

I am not voting against you by default! I am disagreeing with the current proposals up for a vote, I honestly haven’t attached your name to the other proposals that have come up in this dynasty.

I understand how frustrating it is, and I had my own little freak-out about that yesterday, but no-one owes you a for vote.

I obviously understand no one owes me a for vote, but with a lot of proposals just failing without reasons is ehh.

Charisma could still be made useful in a proposal that has other, larget changes.