Sunday, July 16, 2023

Proposal: [Special Case] Necessary loopholes.

Timed out and enacted, 4-3. Josh

Adminned at 18 Jul 2023 20:39:33 UTC

Add the following text to the end of the third paragraph of the special case rule “No Private Communication”:

This rule’s restrictions on communication do not apply during an Interregnum. The restrictions in this rule on communication in non-blognomic-related media shall not be construed as to cause those media to be gamestate.

 

Where it started: Why does this rule forbid private discussions during Interregnum, when the matter under discussion is about to be repealed anyway?

Where it ended: Wait a sec, this regulates my whole life.

Comments

JonathanDark: he/him

17-07-2023 06:26:33 UTC

for

lendunistus: he/him

17-07-2023 07:17:48 UTC

for

Kevan: City he/him

17-07-2023 07:25:02 UTC

You think this regulates the whole life of every player, but you didn’t think that was worth a CfJ, or an explanation of why you think it’s doing that?

I would read “may not privately communicate with each other about dynastic gameplay” as restricting the gamestate scope to acts of communication about dynastic gameplay.

But I don’t know what your argument actually is.

Josh: he/they

17-07-2023 08:38:47 UTC

This all just seems… silly. I understand the reading and it holds together, ish, but is rests on a very precise leap of logic with what the ruleset implies, and, just… I think I have to vote against this just on the principle that the ruleset shouldn’t be swatting at fringe interpretations, it’s a bloated-enough document as it is without moving into a world where every wild edge case needs a specific paragraph to call it out.

(The interregnum change I would maybe consider on its own, but also possibly not, because it doesn’t feel much like it matters.)

Kevan: City he/him

17-07-2023 09:27:16 UTC

for I don’t mind the amendment, but don’t agree on current arguments that it was illegal for me to make a cup of coffee this morning.

SingularByte: he/him

17-07-2023 09:48:14 UTC

I’m not getting it either.
against

JonathanDark: he/him

17-07-2023 14:54:28 UTC

I’m voting in favor purely on the Interregnum part. We can trim out the second sentence later if it causes actual problems. At worst it’s a no-op.

lemon: she/her

18-07-2023 01:09:04 UTC

hm. this is weird. i agree with Kevan and Josh here — the gamestate restrictions apply to strictly the information that blognomic regulates, and i don’t think that extends to information tangentially connected to regulated information — in other words, the insinuation that a drop of regulation relating to /dynastic gameplay/ discussion ice-nines all /other/ communications into being regulated as well just doesn’t seem accurate to me.

against