Friday, August 05, 2022

Proposal: Tattlebots

Timed out unpopular, 1-5. Josh

Adminned at 07 Aug 2022 19:38:34 UTC

Create a new subrule of the rule “Bot Loadouts” entitled “Secret Loadouts” as follows:

If an Operator’s Readiness is Ready, and their Bot has no Systems, then that Operator’s Bot is considered to have a Secret Loadout. A Secret Loadout is an ordered list of Systems that matches a subset of the Systems in that Operator’s Spare Parts Bin, and which must obey the same rules as if that list of Systems were the ones applied to the Operator’s Bot; a Secret Loadout defaults to an empty list. While an Operator’s Readiness is Ready, that Operator may change their Bot’s Secret Loadout at any time by privately informing the Announcer of this.

When the Announcer has been informed of a Secret Loadout by a given Operator, they may—immediately prior to changing that Operator’s Readiness to Staging—perform an atomic action called Kitting Out as follows:
* Removing the set of Systems matching the Operator’s Secret Loadout from that Operator’s Spare Parts Bin
* Setting the Systems of the Operator’s Bot to match their Secret Loadout, in the specified order, with the same Conditions they had while in the Spare Parts Bin

Reword the item in the rule “Bouts” that reads “When an Operator’s Readiness is Ready and they are named in an Announcement Post then the Announcer should set their Readiness to Staging” to read:

When an Operator’s Readiness is Ready and they are named in an Announcement Post then the Announcer should set their Readiness to Staging, after Kitting Out that Operator if they have a Secret Loadout

This is a tricky rule to write—feedback welcome.


Josh: he/they

05-08-2022 22:23:21 UTC

Is this going to be too much swing in the opposite direction? Having *some* idea of where your opponent is at allows for counterplays and the emergence of a meta; with no info it’s basically a crapshoot and it feels like the incentives to innovate in design will deteriorate

Maldor: he/him

05-08-2022 23:59:10 UTC

against I’m with Josh on this one. The idea of keeping a secret loadout just makes it more confusing to determine what is actually on the bot verses in the spare parts bin. Plus keeping track of it might be difficult. If we could make the wiki only show your loadout then it might make things interesting, but as it stands, I think its more work than is worth the tactical advantage.

Brendan: he/him

06-08-2022 00:23:25 UTC

@Josh I wouldn’t be against limiting the capacity of the spare parts bin to keep things estimable.

Josh: he/they

06-08-2022 08:47:25 UTC


Chiiika: she/her

06-08-2022 10:05:27 UTC


Trapdoorspyder: he/him

06-08-2022 13:52:38 UTC


SingularByte: he/him

06-08-2022 19:50:32 UTC