Thursday, February 02, 2012

Proposal: The Intro and the Outro

Timed out and passed, 8-2. Josh

Adminned at 06 Feb 2012 01:51:46 UTC

In the rule “Harmony”, if it exists, replace “If there is not currently a pending Harmony Attempt posted,” with:-

If there is not currently a pending Harmony Attempt posted, and if none of the Harmony Attempts made in the past 7 days (if any were made) were initiated while the Band Members were the same set of Musicians as they are now, then

Fix to a problem in the last proposal, and it’s maybe an interesting mechanic anyway - you can’t try for a Harmony twice with the same lineup in the same week.

Comments

Clucky: he/him

02-02-2012 21:42:12 UTC

I feel like this just turns it into a churn though. Once you have a group that works and is giving you harmony, you have no incentive to brand out and get more members. What do you have against the resetting the band idea?

against

Kevan: he/him

02-02-2012 21:52:10 UTC

I suppose I’m just a bit wary of a faction-based/secret-information dynasty where it’s common for players to flip sides randomly, and for built-up deduction about other players’ identities to become regularly redundant. Maybe I’m coming at it from the wrong angle, though.

Clucky: he/him

03-02-2012 00:19:54 UTC

I mean, part of the point of my proposal is to try and avoid being a faction-based dynasty by having people switch up often

Darknight: he/him

03-02-2012 02:57:12 UTC

imperial

Josh: Observer he/they

03-02-2012 08:01:16 UTC

for

ChronosPhaenon:

03-02-2012 10:40:56 UTC

imperial

Kevan: he/him

03-02-2012 11:58:19 UTC

[Clucky] Fair point, it’d certainly reduce the benefit gained from being in a collaborating faction. I’m not sure if that’s worth throwing out the deduction side of things, though - any successful Harmony is going to encourage outside players to break up that group to stop them gaining more Harmony together anyway.

Bucky:

03-02-2012 14:44:01 UTC

imperial

PBURNS:

03-02-2012 16:53:36 UTC

imperial It seems too easy as it is now for the same group of musicians to remain in the band for 7 days once they get there

Cpt_Koen:

03-02-2012 18:11:05 UTC

against per PBURNS: this would probably stall the game too much.

Kevan: he/him

03-02-2012 19:17:01 UTC

It’s meant to encourage the band to recruit a new member (or, more likely, to kick someone out) so that they can try for more than one Harmony per week, which is a big deal for the surviving band members.

If we did end up with a band stolidly pausing for seven days before every Harmony, a week is a long time in Nomic - I’m sure the Hangers On would propose methods to unseat them.

Cpt_Koen:

03-02-2012 20:08:41 UTC

Hmm, OK. I’m not sure that’s enough though, they could still kick someone out, attempt harmony, get him back in and kick someone else, etc. until seven days have pass and they can do it all over again.
But, well, I guess that doesn’t make things work, so for

Cpt_Koen:

03-02-2012 20:08:58 UTC

(I meant worse)

scshunt:

03-02-2012 23:32:31 UTC

imperial

Greytyphoon:

04-02-2012 14:16:43 UTC

against