Tuesday, February 07, 2012

Proposal: This Idle Love

Reached quorum 12 votes to 0. Enacted by Kevan. Ais523 is idled per his request, Chronos is unidled.

Adminned at 09 Feb 2012 02:28:51 UTC

In Rule 1.2.1, replace everything from and including “An Idling Post is a post within which a Musician requests to be idled or unidled.” to the end of that rule with:-

An Admin may render a Musician Idle if that Musician has asked to become Idle in an entry or comment from the past four days, or if that Musician has not posted an entry or comment in the last seven days. In the latter case, the Admin must announce the idling in a blog post. Admins may render themselves Idle at any time. An Admin may Unidle a Musician if that Musician has asked to become Unidle in an entry or comment from the past four days, and Idle Admins may Unidle themselves at any time, unless the Musician who would be Unidled asked to become (or rendered themselves) Idle within the previous four days, and within the current dynasty.

Remove the “Idling Post” entry from the glossary.

Upon enactment of this proposal, the Musicians named ais523, Bucky, Clucky, Chronos, Phaenon, Darknight, Greytyphoon, Josh, Kevan, Cpt_Koen, Murphy, omd, PBURNS, scshunt, southpointingchariot and Spitemaster shall be set as not Idle and all other Musicians shall be set as Idle.

Our idling system used to be quite simple - you could ask an admin to idle or unidle you through a medium of your choice, and they could process that request with as much or little fanfare as they liked. In October last year a visiting Agora player was concerned that this was too informal, and proposed that we replace it with a strict system of “idling posts”, so that each idling and unidling would leave a clear and unambiguous paper trail.

In practice, this hasn’t really worked out - if a player or admin deviates slightly from procedure, their un/idle request (or, worse, an admin’s processing of it) is flat out illegal.

Following on from Clucky’s draft from a month ago, this proposal would take us back towards the older system, but requiring un/idle requests to be made as a blog post or comment somewhere. It also stops admin from being able to jokingly re-idle a player who has unidled within seven days of asking to be idled. I think these are the only real issues that ever needed fixing. (There’s a diff comparing it to our original idling rule.)

I’ve tacked on a gamestate-resetting “these players are idle, these aren’t” clause, to cover the likely eventuality that at least one idling or unidling since October was incorrectly documented.


Josh: he/they

07-02-2012 14:34:03 UTC

for Thanks for grasping the nettle on this one, I must have started drafting it and given up ten times or more.


07-02-2012 15:10:33 UTC


Clucky: he/him

07-02-2012 18:40:16 UTC



07-02-2012 19:12:06 UTC

for Could someone idle me, please?

Josh: he/they

07-02-2012 21:44:23 UTC

That idle request isn’t valid until this proposal passes.


08-02-2012 04:30:57 UTC

As an Agoran,  for


08-02-2012 07:33:36 UTC

for Except of course, that I can’t vote.


08-02-2012 16:42:25 UTC



08-02-2012 17:11:42 UTC



08-02-2012 20:12:51 UTC

against This will make me Idle. There are no players named “Chronos” and “Phaenon”.

Kevan: he/him

08-02-2012 20:17:15 UTC

Sorry, I was just search-and-replacing spaces with comma-spaces. If you request to unidle in a comment, though, whoever enacts this can unidle you immediately after enactment (and I’ll do it myself if they don’t).


08-02-2012 20:29:32 UTC

Ok, please unidle me.

Whoever enacts this, please note that I’m exempt from the 4 days cooling time, since I’ve not “asked to become (or rendered myself) Idle”.




09-02-2012 00:09:00 UTC



09-02-2012 01:06:37 UTC


Darknight: he/him

09-02-2012 06:29:43 UTC