Thursday, December 17, 2009

Travel protosal, soliciting advice

So… since we have locations, it makes sense we need to change them once in awhile. Rather than wasting wishes each time, there should be some sort of travel mechanic. Anyone have good ideas on how it should go?

Comments

alethiophile:

17-12-2009 20:06:23 UTC

Maybe some mechanic involving vehicles? You possess a ship, say, which you can use to travel anywhere on a coast. Something like that.

ais523:

17-12-2009 20:12:58 UTC

The Universe has things like airports and roads in. Maybe we could use those.

NoOneImportant:

17-12-2009 20:20:09 UTC

I was tempted to suggest any location that is hotlinked from one can be traveled to… but then you really have to be careful about changes in the Wikipedia since reference time.

spikebrennan:

17-12-2009 20:24:40 UTC

Magic carpets.  Dirigibles.  Accelerated continental drift.  Bathyscape.  The Spruce Goose.  Messerschmitt Me 264.  Project Habakkuk.  Flue network.  Professor Von Hardwigg’s passage.

ais523:

17-12-2009 20:30:11 UTC

ooh, a six degrees of Wikipedia travel mechanic? It wouldn’t be that hard to look back in the history.

Klisz:

17-12-2009 20:30:25 UTC

I like NOI’s idea.  for

alethiophile:

17-12-2009 20:50:19 UTC

Difficult to see ALL of Wikipedia as of reference time, though

alethiophile:

17-12-2009 21:23:17 UTC

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alethiophile:

17-12-2009 21:29:07 UTC

Testing again…

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(OK, I’ll stop using this thread now.)

Wakukee:

17-12-2009 22:59:19 UTC

Also, why not set my location to lamp when I am trapped
?

Scaramouche:

18-12-2009 00:18:16 UTC

Flying carpets do seem like an obvious choice.  Maybe the kind from the myth that only work if you don’t think about pink elephants?  Which sounds on the surface like a really interesting idea but i’m buggered if i can think of a way to make it a rule.

Ornithopter:

18-12-2009 00:52:50 UTC

I’d like to add http://www.ommatidia.org/2006/01/20/south-dakota/ to spikebrennan’s list.

Possible travel destinations from Cuba using NOI’s idea:
(Not a complete list. Not checked at the reference time.)
China
Democratic Republic of Congo
Guam
The Netherlands
Turkey
Washington D.C.

So, it doesn’t make a lot of sense geographically (or, in the case of DC, legally), but it’s more interesting than geographical travel would be. I’m for it.

TrumanCapote:

18-12-2009 01:40:18 UTC

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tecslicer:

18-12-2009 02:56:37 UTC

Yeah Geographical travel, assuming we limit it to directly provable routs from one wiki page to another, would leave me in trouble, but if I could somehow get to Rockford…

But what about name manipulation. Daily action of changing up to two letters in your location, to a valid new location?

Ornithopter:

18-12-2009 03:27:23 UTC

I don’t think that would work very well. Where could you go from “Mornington Crescent tube station”, for instance?

alethiophile:

18-12-2009 05:01:38 UTC

No name manipulation; it’s too difficult to use (given names with different lengths). I would be in favor of link-based usage, but I would also like some ability to do geographical travel. Maybe one is the usual method and the other is a special case?

Ornithopter:

18-12-2009 05:18:59 UTC

How do you propose to do geographic travel? Neither of the two systems I came up with are very good. A fixed mileage (or kilometerage) per day makes sense, but information on the distance between two arbitrary points is going to be difficult to come by. “Travel to any neighboring country” is simple enough, but then it takes 6 moves to get from Colombia to Mexico, and 2 from Mexico to Canada.

spikebrennan:

18-12-2009 11:08:26 UTC

I like NOI’s idea, even if it limits my destinations to Amundsen Station, Vostok Station and Christchurch, NZ of all places.

NoOneImportant:

18-12-2009 16:44:45 UTC

OK, how about link-based as a daily and then as a weekly, geographic based to any location within 500 miles of your current?

Scaramouche:

18-12-2009 18:03:19 UTC

Ornithopter:  Google can tell you distances from anywhere to anywhere pretty easily, iirc.  NOI’s last sounds alright.

Ornithopter:

18-12-2009 21:54:16 UTC

It can do distance by road, but can it give the distance as the crow flies?

Ornithopter:

18-12-2009 22:05:50 UTC

Googling around a bit gave me the Google Maps Distance Calculator (http://www.daftlogic.com/projects-google-maps-distance-calculator.htm).

Klisz:

19-12-2009 05:15:43 UTC

“Travel to any neighboring country” was used in the First Dynasty of Qwazukee (initially as a way to complete the Step “Go to Wales”, within the “Save the Whales” Good Deed. Good times… good times…)

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