Sunday, March 24, 2024

Story Post: Upgrade Request for Snap 013

Timed out, 2-2. Failed by JonathanDark.

Adminned at 26 Mar 2024 19:34:54 UTC

I believe that Snap 013 meets the Upgrade Benchmark “A Snap which meets every Public Criteria”


JonathanDark: he/him

24-03-2024 15:10:38 UTC

It meets “A Snap which meets every Public Criteria” because:

* The Shot was taken in an outside location.
* The flower in the shot has its own Wikipedia page: Iberis Sempervirens
* I’m wearing a glove in the shot
* The message to the viewer in the shot is “Kevan will probably win”

Josh: he/they

24-03-2024 15:12:06 UTC

Oooh, I’m not sure how I feel about the plant species name qualifying as a ‘specific named entity’ -  I feel like the plant in question would need its own page for that criteria to be met…

JonathanDark: he/him

24-03-2024 15:20:36 UTC

Oh, interesting. Maybe that was the intent of the rule, but as written, I don’t see that it requires “a unique instance”, just “a specific named entity”

Josh: he/they

24-03-2024 15:33:19 UTC

In what way is is a “specific… entity” if it is being defined by its category?

JonathanDark: he/him

24-03-2024 17:29:36 UTC

I’ll just point out Kevan’s usage of the Wikipedia entry for the squirrel in <a >his Upgrade Request</a>, though to be fair he put forth the park he took the shot in as well, and asked us to take it on his word.

JonathanDark: he/him

24-03-2024 17:29:56 UTC

Ugh, flubbed the link of course

Josh: he/they

24-03-2024 17:47:52 UTC

True. I’m fairly sure I know which park it is, and it does have it’s own Wikipedia entry, but part of the purpose of my initial comment on both that one and this one was too see how hard we’re playing this dynasty - are people looking for reasons to deny each other upgrades, or are we politely waving them through unless they’re flagrantly unacceptable?

JonathanDark: he/him

24-03-2024 18:37:21 UTC

Indeed. I’ve made my case, so I think at this point I’ll leave it up to the voters to decide how to treat these Upgrade Requests.

Kevan: City he/him

25-03-2024 11:58:24 UTC

against Think I’m leaning towards interpreting “entity” as a standalone instance, here, and imagine I would have done for the squirrel in #12 if pushed (I only raised it as a potential backup in case I wasn’t online enough to prove which park I was in, to those who requested proof). The two plants within the frame of the photo are two specific entities, and neither has its “own” Wikipedia page.

Clucky: he/him

25-03-2024 16:44:12 UTC

If Kevan posting a zoomed in photo of a park counts as an “specific entity”... isn’t a zoomed in photo of London also a “specific entity”? Or a zoomed in photo of Earth? At what point does the zooming become okay?

I think Kevan scored points because of the squirrel, which means JD should get points for the flower


Josh: he/they

26-03-2024 11:45:18 UTC

I think Clucky raises reasonable points about Kevan’s claim, but those should probably have been raised on Kevan’s claim when we could have done something about it.

I kind of approve of being a bit more mercinary about the development criteria rather than just cranking the handle, so I’mma go against