Tuesday, February 17, 2009

Proposal: Well, I think I’ve got it all secure and stuff…

I think I’ve made him an admin successfully. It would be good if someone double-checked it though.
Enacted at 7 for, 3 against. -SB

You did—Rodlen

Adminned at 19 Feb 2009 09:19:45 UTC

Make Rodlen an admin.

Comments

Rodlen:

17-02-2009 05:34:01 UTC

imperial Author COV

Rodlen:

17-02-2009 07:40:33 UTC

for COV again, as Amni could kill this with one vote if I voted def.

ais523:

17-02-2009 09:45:06 UTC

for if you’re pretty sure there won’t be any more trouble via your account (a hacked admin account is kind-of problematic…)
It is always helpful to have more soldiers in High Command, ready to help out with the paperwork whilst still being able to fight on the front lines if need be. We must be careful, though; a traitor with the access codes would be highly problematic. We just have to hope that Soldier Rodlen will manage to keep them safe this time, and I see no reason why he wouldn’t.

Kevan: he/him

17-02-2009 09:49:01 UTC

We’re presumably still in the situation where either (a) you still share a workplace/house/college with another human being who knows enough about BlogNomic to want to hack around with it in your name, or (b) you decided that “rogue housemate” was a good cover story when apparently caught lying about one of the many illegal RODLEN WAZ HARE edits (after a month or so of you illegally editing funny little messages into a lot of other posts, despite being shouted down by the other players).

I’m not very comfortable with either of these.

against

SingularByte: he/him

17-02-2009 11:55:13 UTC

for

Devenger:

17-02-2009 12:15:24 UTC

imperial Devenger is Loyal. He also does not know enough to rationally decide, having only unidled to see the end of this fiasco.

Rodlen:

17-02-2009 15:33:48 UTC

Kevan:

A: I have taken many security measures to prevent rogue use of my account, as I had said a few weeks ago.

B: ...You will note that I completely disagreed with the comments made in some of the RWH messages, especially the last one. (attempt to say Bucky was lying when he was obviously just trying to make us think that)

Rodlen:

17-02-2009 15:40:03 UTC

Oh, and by the way, which of my IPs did that last RWH message come from?

Klisz:

17-02-2009 16:10:30 UTC

for

Kevan: he/him

17-02-2009 16:13:00 UTC

Can you tell us who this mystery person actually is? A friend of yours who follows BlogNomic closely and enjoys the running jokes, but doesn’t play?

The message came from 24.207.88.*; the exact same IP you used twenty minutes later to delete the same RWH message, after Clucky complained about it.

arthexis: he/him

17-02-2009 20:00:39 UTC

against

Gnauga:

17-02-2009 22:36:45 UTC

for

Wakukee:

17-02-2009 22:39:49 UTC

for

Qwazukee:

17-02-2009 22:56:17 UTC

for Rodlen is a secure soldier.

Darknight: he/him

17-02-2009 23:04:59 UTC

imperial

TrumanCapote:

17-02-2009 23:23:43 UTC

imperial

Rodlen:

18-02-2009 05:41:39 UTC

Kevan: I don’t know who the mystery person is.

...

“despite being shouted down by the other players”

As in you and one of the _uckys.

By the way, did you check any of the IPs for the other RWH messages that I explicitly said I didn’t make?

Kevan: he/him

18-02-2009 10:06:31 UTC

Someone else has access to your physical computer within twenty minutes of you, uses that time to go to blognomic.com and make silly changes via the admin interface, and you have no idea who were, or whether they’re still around?

Not only that, but you think that potentially giving them full delete-the-blog admin access (if you ever forget to log out) is a fair price to pay for you getting to be an admin again?

Rodlen:

18-02-2009 15:52:59 UTC

1: Yes, I have no idea.  (Okay, why does it sound like you are trying to pin the blame fully on me?)

2: ...wait, admins can do that?  The most I ever saw admins do or found that admins could do was delete posts, and we recently discovered that that is reversible.

And finally, did you check any of the IPs for the other RWH messages that I said I didn’t make?

Rodlen:

18-02-2009 17:02:28 UTC

Oh, and I have not been using the automatic login thing, so I’m logged out when I close my browser.

Kevan: he/him

18-02-2009 17:05:09 UTC

I’m just trying to understand where you’re coming from on this. If there was a mysterious colleague or housemate using my machine when I wasn’t around, and they’d been messing around with one particular site I was a regular on, I’d be very, very wary of requesting full admin privileges on that site.

I’m sure an admin who wanted to wreck the nomic could do a lot of annoying-to-repair damage, even without a “delete entire site” button in the dashboard.

And no, I haven’t bothered checking all the IPs; I appreciate that a lot of the RWHs were made by other editors running with the joke. The only relevant case is the edit you specifically said that you didn’t make, but which came from your own IP address.

Rodlen:

18-02-2009 17:13:24 UTC

First part: Yes.  There is a reason why I have done a huge amount of work on the security of my account.

Second: Yes.  Especially with the templates.  Heck, even a non-admin can fool around with unclosed tags and cause some annoying damage.  (GNDT bolding, anyone?)

Third: Okay, then.  It’s just that you were using language that implied that you thought I was behind all of the RWHs in earlier comments of yours/

Kevan: he/him

18-02-2009 17:23:17 UTC

Appreciated, but if this mysterious stranger is using your actual computer within a few minutes of you using it, all you need to do is forget to log out, once.

Rodlen:

18-02-2009 17:27:09 UTC

I don’t leave my browser open when I’m out of the room.  And because I have the autologin function off now, I don’t need to log out manually.

Wooble:

18-02-2009 17:58:05 UTC

imperial

Amnistar: he/him

18-02-2009 20:59:11 UTC

Why are you people voting DEF on this!?

You force me not to vote because it basically means I’m deciding his fate, and I don’t want that on my hands.

Wooden Squid:

19-02-2009 00:19:01 UTC

against

Wakukee:

19-02-2009 01:00:10 UTC

7 for, 3 against, 4 def.

Rodlen:

19-02-2009 03:15:08 UTC

Basically, unless we have a mass of against votes or Amni votes against, this will pass.

arthexis: he/him

19-02-2009 06:06:45 UTC

I would enact this one… ‘cept I don’t know how, sorry :P

Rodlen:

19-02-2009 06:10:32 UTC

I remember something about user groups from the admin tab, I think.