Monday, February 22, 2021

Proposal: What We Do In The Shallows

6 FOR votes. That is quorum.—Clucky

Adminned at 24 Feb 2021 02:17:30 UTC

If the sentence “Political Power may be gifted or traded freely.” exists in the Ruleset, replace it with

An Elector may transfer any positive integer amount of their own Political Power to another Elector at any time, either by making a Story Post which clearly specifies the transferred amount and its recipient, or by sending a Private Message to both the recipient of the transfer and the Doge which clearly specifies the transferred amount.

If a paragraph beginning “Each Elector may then make a Response, where a Response must comprise…” exists in the Ruleset, append to it this sentence:

The sum of all such Response-changes to Mistrust which are sent to the Doge within 48 hours of the posting of the Rumour then accrues to the Mistrust of the Rumour’s subject, though this accrual is not effective until the next time the Doge stages a Masquerade.

If the sentence “At any time, the two Electors with the highest Mistrust are Candidates; their Political Heft is always considered to be zero.” exists in the Ruleset, replace it with

At any time, all Electors with the highest Mistrust and all Electors with the second-highest Mistrust are Candidates; their Political Heft is always considered to be zero, unless they all belong to the same Faction and the same Secret Faction.

Patching up based on commentary from the other WWDITS post. Added a twist to Candidacy that I think will help ward off a Werewolf death spiral.



22-02-2021 22:28:12 UTC

Excellent work, thank you.


22-02-2021 22:32:02 UTC

Might be worth changing the first fix to “An Elector may spend any integer amount of their own Political Power to give that amount to another Elector”; as it is there’s the potential for an “I transfer 10,000,000 Power to Salviatore but only go down to 0” argument, while the paradigms of spending are set out in the appendix.

Clucky: HE/HIM

22-02-2021 22:40:33 UTC

“An Elector may transfer any integer amount ”

does saying “any integer” that count as “otherwise specifying” that the amount has to be positive?

Also people don’t necessarily know their own political power. This could create problems if I go “I transfer 5 power to Pokes” and now Pokes thinks they have five more power, but turns out I didn’t have 5 power to give.

Brendan: HE/HIM

22-02-2021 23:15:57 UTC

Transferring is also delineated in the appendix, in the same format as spending. I’ll change “integer amount” to “positive integer amount.”


22-02-2021 23:21:06 UTC

Gah, right there in the same paragraph. Sorry, having kind of a dopey day over here.

We will need to elaborate on it a bit for situations where an Elector, due to not knowing how much Power they have, attempts to spend more than they have available. But that can be tidied up later.


23-02-2021 09:59:15 UTC


Kevan: HE/HIM

23-02-2021 12:19:40 UTC



23-02-2021 12:38:28 UTC

against Because the tiebreaker here makes everyone a Candidate right out of the gate.

Darknight: HE/HIM

23-02-2021 13:51:17 UTC


Kevan: HE/HIM

23-02-2021 14:55:27 UTC

[pokes] Does that cause any problems, though?


23-02-2021 15:47:24 UTC

Hm, I saw that, thought “it probably causes problems that I hadn’t figured out yet”, but haven’t figured them out.

Clucky: HE/HIM

23-02-2021 16:53:06 UTC

Heft of zero just means your votes count as 0, but it doesn’t change other candidates heft. So we don’t need to worry about “one person gets their mistrust down and is the only one with actual power”. So I think its safe?


23-02-2021 17:01:39 UTC


Clucky: HE/HIM

24-02-2021 02:14:57 UTC

whoops realized I forgot to for