BlogNomic: The First Dynasty of Desertfrog

And Distaff Toads are (now that we’re in a Hurricane and every home has a single Human) being advised to kill themselves.

Hm, not sure I like this mechanic very much. Seems less random and more picked. (Sorry.)

And that’s said while I’m hopefull of achieving two of the three (and it’s impossible to achieve the third.).

Alltogether, with a little luck (Swords Triangle Bee) this is an easy 3 pointer while others (example Parapet Flax Parapet) are next to impossible.

It is neither random nor picked - there is a system that can be reverse-engineered, although I’m not allowed to tell you what it is. But that’s the nature of horoscopes! Some weeks they’re bad, but there’s every possibility that next week’s will be good.

I believe myself to be Uncanny because my Prediction is telling me to both “Take up the job of Farmer” (Flax Triangle) and “Take up the job of Healer” (Spindle Triangle).

I am Uncanny, too, I believe, since I have to be Farmer and Healer by the Triangle’s Flax and Spindle.

Josh: I don’t want to doubt you, but is the system “fair” regarding that birth signs don’t change all that often?

After all, two lucky horoscopes and you’ve won, that’s very quick, I think, even given the new “Uncanny”-thing, which gives only 1 Fate.

Hm, there is a thing here, I just realized. What are the possible outcomes of Prophecies? You either gain 3 fate (all three met), gain 1 fate (2 met, 1 not), loose 1 fate (1 met, 2 not) or loose 3 fate (none met, although most will probably be Uncanny then). Why is there no way to gain 2 fate?

I will repropose a new possibility…

[mideg] The Uncanny rule can convert the second case into 2 Fate. And you actually “neither gain nor lose Fate” if you fail to meet any of your Predictions, rather than losing 3, per the existing rule.

[Kevan] Ah, right. I still feel that gaining 3 is too much since its 50% of winning. Two lucky seasons is all that’s needed? Feels to quick for the buildup we hade to get here. (Which is quite a nice setting, but I still think there’s some action lacking.)

[mideg] There is no current way to win the dynasty, that first-to-five proposal didn’t enact.

Ooooh.

Upsie…

Mideg - at the very least I can say that the system has some flexibility built in, so that the signs shouldn’t very strongly correlate with specific outcomes.

As Kevan says, the rule has no Fate change if all three predictions are missed. That was intended to make sure that people who got bad predictions could essentially opt out for a season.

[Josh]

This still feels very, I don’t know, railroading, to me.

Readings follow some system we don’t know. An almost purely random gamestate decides which Birthsigns we have (we can rerole at a cost). Where’s my influence on things?

The “missing-out” mechanic doesn’t help, since receiving 0 points compared to three is still a big loss.

This feels like, to me, that every player that pays some attention to the readings has a chance to win or gain fate, but the decision between those players is out of their control - if not random.

Maybe things change if and when some of us “reverse engineers” those rules that govern the readings or they are random enough

I’m a bit confused as to what you want from this. You seem to be asking for it to be more randomness - which would be fine, and is easy enough to set up, but how does that increase your influence over things?

You say it’s “railroading”, but I have absolutely no control over the outcome either. What you’re getting here is systemically indistinguishable from true random. Given that it’s the first one, it’s also way to early to comment on whether it has any intrinsic bias.

For what it’s worth, I’m very happy to countenance changes. There remains also the option to completely disregard this as a mechanic and focus on other things. What do you want as an outcome?

I don’t think there’s any way to change the sky, so I don’t know how I would fulfill my flaxen Eel sign and make my birth sign not in the sky. Considering this, I believe I am uncanny.

Actually, I am definitely Uncanny: there is no way for me to get 2 Gold in my Home as per Spindle Eel because Gold is not a Thing.

[Josh] It’s all right. Let’s see, where this is going. I am just grumpy that I cannot do much right now and what I can do is dictated by the Reading.

Okay cool.

Re. uncanniness - if someone is uncanny now, passes a rule making their prediction possible, and fulfills it, do they still count as uncanny when resolving the prediction at the end of the season?

I’d say because you have to decide weither you feel if a Townsperson is Uncanny when doing the next Reading, it’d be then.

On the other hand, when the DoO is in the past, pretty much any unfulfilled Outcome is impossible, so…

“Uncanny” should probably reflect the moment the Reading was made. We should add that to the rules.

Otherwise, a clever man (so, not me, certainly not me) would do stuff that makes his Outcome impossible and then calls out his own Uncannyness.

Hmm. I think I am uncanny too. My first bee wants me to gain two animals but thats a spring only deal

Yep, very much uncanny. Both distaff and flax bee wants me to gain 2 animals and 2 humans but those can only be gained in spring

I believe I’m uncanny because I can’t possibly gain 2 humans in my home during the Season.