Saturday, May 06, 2023

Proposal: If it’s not from the ruleset region of blognomic it’s called a “sparkling guideline”

Passes 5-4 - redtara

Adminned at 08 May 2023 20:10:54 UTC

Add a subrule to the rule “Regions” entitled “Resources”:

Each Region has a primary resource and a secondary resource. A primary resource’s legal values are blank or a text string which is a valid English noun phrase which does not appear anywhere in the Ruleset. A secondary resource’s legal values are blank or the name of any other region’s primary resource which is not the secondary resource of another region. City Architect may set a blank primary or secondary resource of their region to any non-blank legal value, provided they have secured the assent of every City Architect who controls a city in the same region (this may be secured privately with a public post made to dispute if necessary).

If there are any Regions but none of them have any non-blank primary resource, as an atomic action, any City Architect may set one Region’s primary resource to any non-blank legal value and remove this sentence from the ruleset.

Comments

Josh: Observer he/they

06-05-2023 19:59:27 UTC

Is this a stub too far? We should probably plug population and districts in properly before expanding out to other Civ concepts

Josh: Observer he/they

06-05-2023 19:59:45 UTC

Title is good though 👍

redtara: they/them

06-05-2023 20:02:42 UTC

Well that’s part of why I went for the slow fill-in of resources. Also, if resources are going to be a thing, I’d rather know that before we flesh out population than graft them on after the fact.

SingularByte: he/him

06-05-2023 20:07:19 UTC

If we’re going to have resources being set directly by players, I think I’d rather have the people in a given region have some say in it rather than just having it controlled by whoever happens to be online at the right times.

JonathanDark: he/him

06-05-2023 20:17:03 UTC

I do like that we seem to be dedicated to letting the City Architects name the things in their domain: city names, resource names, ….

We should keep that as a recurring part of this dynastic theme.

redtara: they/them

06-05-2023 20:26:01 UTC

Alright, how’s that

redtara: they/them

07-05-2023 01:09:02 UTC

for

JonathanDark: he/him

07-05-2023 04:28:06 UTC

Did you just vote in favor of your own Proposal? Lol

JonathanDark: he/him

07-05-2023 04:28:29 UTC

That said,  for  from me as well

Josh: Observer he/they

07-05-2023 05:22:21 UTC

against from me, for now, until we know how the rest of the stuff settles down

SingularByte: he/him

07-05-2023 06:27:05 UTC

I want to vote in favour, but once we factor in the rules that will be needed to connect this to the rest of the ruleset (which also needs expanding), it could get quite unwieldy and we might be better served by a simplified system.

I think I might hold off on voting at the moment though.

Titanic:

07-05-2023 08:36:23 UTC

It sounds like an interesting idea, it’s racing a bit ahead of everything else that’s been decided so far but I like the concept so,  for

Kevan: he/him

07-05-2023 17:10:49 UTC

for

Snisbo: she/they

08-05-2023 00:16:05 UTC

imperial Seems premature but I’m not against it

Snisbo: she/they

08-05-2023 00:16:20 UTC

...def has no effect right now, does it?

JonathanDark: he/him

08-05-2023 03:44:48 UTC

That’s how I understand it

SingularByte: he/him

08-05-2023 08:15:48 UTC

for

Bucky:

08-05-2023 15:04:21 UTC

against Primary-secondary structure is fine.

I do not like the freeform resource names; I think it’s too likely to cause problems later.

jjm3x3: he/him

08-05-2023 15:55:42 UTC

I too am a bit skeptical of the resource naming, but that’s not exactly a deal breaker. I do also like the primary/secondary. I don’t love how the seeding action is worded. It seems as soon as it’s triggered once it would preclude anyone from trigger it again since “none of them have any non-blank primary resource” would now be false. Also I don’t love that there isn’t a restriction on which regions a city architect can name resources for meaning that I could name a primary resource in a region which does not contain a city I control. Doesn’t seem game breaking just doesn’t feel good. Also I am on the fence about it being too soon for this rule. I could be convinced, but I would like some of the other things addressed before I am onboard. against

summai:

08-05-2023 17:02:44 UTC

against per Josh. Better to keep things simple till we kickstart