Wednesday, November 13, 2013

Proposal: Junta’s Moon

Vetoed. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 15 Nov 2013 08:39:44 UTC

Add a new list to the rule “Government Actions”, called “Military Actions (0)”. If “By Your Command” passed, move the “Exile” action to the Military Actions list.

Add a new Military Action:-

The General of the Military may declare a Coup attempt by spending 10 Power and making a Proposal with the string “Coup:” in its title - that Proposal is counted as a Coup Proposal. If a Coup Proposal does not have an AGAINST vote from either the Admiral of the Navy or the Brigadier of the Air Force, then that Proposal cannot be vetoed.

A security report for you, El Presidente. I don’t think we have anything to worry about here, it is unlikely that all three branches of our defence will be compromised simultaneously, and a coup-minded General will have merely wasted Power and tipped their hand. It may even be advantageous to promote a citizen of questionable loyalty to General, and a trusted one to the Navy or Air Force.

posted by Kevan at 13 Nov 2013 16:56:43 UTC Comments (10)

Comments

RaichuKFM: she/her

13-11-2013 19:18:38 UTC

for

Larrytheturtle:

13-11-2013 20:04:05 UTC

for

Skju:

13-11-2013 21:43:44 UTC

for

Spitemaster:

13-11-2013 23:08:35 UTC

for

Bucky:

14-11-2013 01:40:39 UTC

against due to the unpredictable demand for emergency anti-scam vetoes.

Purplebeard:

14-11-2013 08:14:59 UTC

for

Josef:

14-11-2013 17:32:05 UTC

for

Josh: Observer he/they

14-11-2013 22:04:45 UTC

After some thought,  veto . Three people is too few people to really satisfactorily reassure against immediate victory collaboration (I know that Coup is not defined for now, but I think I can assume that it’s not going to be around ensuring the stability and longevity of the dynasty). Allowing the combined forces of the three Heads of the Armed Forces to override a veto would be an interesting approach, however.

Kevan: he/him

14-11-2013 23:22:29 UTC

A “Coup” is effectively defined here as “any proposal that the General thinks would be popular but vetoed”, and the mechanic is that the three Heads can pre-emptively override a veto by having the General make the Coup Proposal and the other two refusing to vote against it.

Allowing them to override a veto after it had been made (and not tipping their hand if they don’t need to, or if the proposal turned out to be unpopular anyway) would seem less in your interests, El Presidente!

Josh: Observer he/they

14-11-2013 23:53:48 UTC

I prefer that mutinous Military leaders be forced to take independent positive actions en masse to overrule my will, rather than one of them being able to slip a Coup through with only the tacit approval of the other two. It gives me a clearer picture of who needs to be exiled.