Proposal: Let’s go over the plan
Reached quorum 6 votes to 3, with an Imperial DEF. Enacted by Kevan.
Adminned at 11 Apr 2025 08:08:44 UTC
Create a new rule called Phases:
The game is split into two phases: Setting Patrols, and Planning the Break-in. The current phase is publicly tracked and defaults to Setting Patrols.
Guards may only make Preparation Actions during the Setting Patrols phase. Guards may only change their Route during the Setting Patrols phase.
Make a subrule of Phases called Showing the Patrols:
If every Guard has a non-blank Route and there are no Civilians, then the Concierge may perform the Show the Patrols atomic action by doing the following:
* They make a post that does the following:
** Displays the Routes of every Guard.
** Displays each Preparation Action performed by each Guard during this phase as well as the Locations chosen for those actions
** Displays the locations of Artifacts
* They set the current Phase to Planning the Break-In
Make “The Break-In” a subrule of Phases. Remove the text ” and there are no Civilians” from it.
To the bullet point list in “The Break-In”, append
* Set the current Phase to Setting Patrols
In the rule Guards and Burglars, replace “If there are any Civilians” with
If there are any Civilians and it is the Setting Patrols phase
Let’s add some structure to this. It feels like the burglars are going to be running around blindly into surprise guards, which is the exact opposite of how you’d expect a well-planned heist to go. To be able to actually make plans, the burglars need to know what they’re up against.
This is unbalanced, but so is the current situation, and I think it makes a better starting point. We will have to amend this so that the Burglars get only partial information rather than all of it, but I like the direction this is going in.
Abstaining as this is a team balance question.
I think the timing aspect is good but the info leaking is a bit too strong
ais523:
I really approve of the sentiment here – I especially like the way it stops timing scams, and I like the way that it tries to swing the balance back towards the Burglars – but “the Burglars know absolutely everything” probably simplifies the gameplay a bit too much (it probably won’t be hard for the Burglars to work out an optimal strategy knowing everything that the Guards are doing).
I think probably the best version of this keeps the split into two phases, but gives the Burglars only partial information.