Friday, September 17, 2021

Proposal: Montereys Coast

Cannot be enacted without a vote change, with 2 Influential votes and 5 total votes against. Josh

Adminned at 19 Sep 2021 10:47:29 UTC

Create a new subrule to the rule “Ideologies” entitled “Known Ideologies” as follows:

Each Cell has a Known Ideology, which is publicly tracked, and defaults to nothing. At any time, a Cell may update their Known Ideology to match their Ideology.

Prepend to the bulleted list in the rule “Anonymous Tips” the following:

* If the Tip’s Accused has a Known Ideology that is not nothing and which matches their Ideology, and every other Cell with the same Known Ideology as the Tip’s Accused also has the same Ideology as the Tip’s Accused, then take no further action on this Tip. Otherwise, continue with the following steps:

There’s no scam here, I just want to find a way to make a zero-trust mechanic for declaring Ideologies. Maybe information decay + prisoner’s dilemma will be sufficiently punitive?

Comments

Josh: Observer he/they

17-09-2021 19:06:08 UTC

Any attempt at this, in my view, has to defuse the massive advantage gained by two Cells having the same Ideology in terms of buzz and Adherent accretion.

Even if only one Cell has their info public, any two confederates - not necessarily including the Cell whose info is public - can make reference to the public information to coordinate.

I just think that this cuts too clean a path through the centre of the game.

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

17-09-2021 19:55:36 UTC

Is there any specific reason why a person couldn’t just shout a random set of ideologies from the rooftops and use that?

Brendan: he/him

17-09-2021 20:02:16 UTC

@Trapdoorspyder: the reason is the difference between a game mechanic and table talk. One can be mechanically backed up, the other can’t.

Brendan: he/him

17-09-2021 20:14:47 UTC

(Oh, or maybe that was a question to Josh, not me?)

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

17-09-2021 21:06:23 UTC

It was just an in general question. Being mechanically backed up seems to be what Josh is worried about.

Clucky: he/him

18-09-2021 00:16:23 UTC

Why is being able to mechanically prove your ideology a good thing for the game?

Josh: Observer he/they

18-09-2021 06:39:50 UTC

against

Kevan: he/him

18-09-2021 10:53:34 UTC

against

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

18-09-2021 15:57:20 UTC

against

Raven1207: he/they

18-09-2021 15:58:42 UTC

against

Darknight: he/him

18-09-2021 16:58:13 UTC

against