Thursday, April 20, 2017

Proposal: More Games, No More Work

Timed out 0-5. Failed by card.

Adminned at 23 Apr 2017 06:23:33 UTC

Replace “Gameplay” with:

As a daily action, the Commissioner may oversee a Bloggsball game between two Full Teams of the Commissioner’s choice, henceforth referred to as teams A and B.
As a biweekly (once every two weeks), a manager may oversee a Bloggsball game between their team and a team of their choice, henceforth referred to as teams A and B.
As an action (may be taken as often as one likes), a manager (whose Full Team is henceforth referred to as team A) may challenge (in a public posting to the Blog) a Full Team of their choice, henceforth referred to as team B. If the manager of team B accepts the challenge (in a comment on the first post), the manager of team B SHALL oversee a Bloggsball game between teams A and B. No two players may play more than five games with each other under this provision per week. No individual team may play more games than the number of Managers in any given week.

This Overseeing is an atomic action consisting of the following steps:

* Calculating the Power of each team. A team’s power is the sum of the Levels of the team’s players. Let the power of team A be represented by X and the power of team B be represented by Y.
* Choosing an odd number of rounds for the game between 5 and 25. Traditionally, this is 13.
* Rolling a DICE(X+Y), not necessarily in the GNDT, once for each round. For a given die, if it is less than or equal to X, team A scores a point. Otherwise, team B scores a point. The team that scores more points during the game wins the game.
* Making a post containing the results of the game.

The number of games a manager’s team has played is tracked in the GNDT.

This should resolve the major previous issue.



04-20-2017 22:50:06 UTC

This does not contain an ‘anti-runaway games’ provision. I’m letting you know so you have a chance to add it.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus:

04-20-2017 22:57:04 UTC

How is this now? I am still open to revisions though.

Oracular rufio:

04-20-2017 23:07:01 UTC

You need to specify how often people can oversee a game - i.e. change it to “a daily action”, “a weekly action”, etc.

Also, I would like codification on what an unambiguous acceptance of a challenge is, since presumably this has to happen in public or else there will probably be some nasty CFJs.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus:

04-20-2017 23:09:35 UTC

oracular rufio, derrick: How is it now? I think I resolved all of the issues unless new ones have appeared.

Oracular rufio:

04-20-2017 23:30:31 UTC

Ok, specifically I think there should be *some* limit on the number of games, not “you can do it whenever”.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus:

04-20-2017 23:43:44 UTC

ocular rufio, I added this previously: “No two players may play more than five games with each other under this provision per week.”

Oracular rufio:

04-20-2017 23:48:21 UTC

I don’t think that’s a strict enough restriction.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus:

04-20-2017 23:49:18 UTC

ocular rufio, what would you recommend?

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus:

04-20-2017 23:50:26 UTC

I do the issue though, with the current draft there can be up to 807 games per two weeks.

Oracular rufio:

04-20-2017 23:52:09 UTC

There needs to be a limit to the number of games per week that each team can have.  Not each pair of teams.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus:

04-21-2017 00:58:31 UTC

ocular rufio, how is it now?

Oracular rufio:

04-21-2017 01:05:23 UTC

That’s better, but I think it should just be a specific number.  “Number of players” is ambiguous here - it could be number of blognomic players (which I think you meant, in which case it should be “Managers”, that’s not what I would go for personally but I would vote for it) or number of players in the Bloggsball match.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus:

04-21-2017 01:12:32 UTC

oracular rufio, I think I have resolved all of the issues.

Oracular rufio:

04-21-2017 01:22:03 UTC

I just realized you have taken out the part that says that no one can play more than two more games than anyone else, which I liked. With this, two people could collude and play their five games with each other and then their extra for the biweekly action, and potentially get ahead of everyone else.  If they are evenly matched, they each win about three of those six games (if they are not evenly matched, they are unlikely to collude).

Hmm.  I guess that’s not too bad.  I’ll leave it for now in case you want to change it, and to see what others think.


04-21-2017 06:34:43 UTC

Well that looks like it took some work to get this incarnation. imperial

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus:

04-21-2017 09:28:37 UTC

Ocular Rubio, the rest of the players could then collude to catch up, therefore I am leaving it.


04-21-2017 13:50:10 UTC

against And I am then voting against it. sorry.

Publius Scribonius Scholasticus:

04-21-2017 20:40:21 UTC

derrick, if this fails, I will add provisions in a new version.


04-22-2017 07:56:28 UTC



04-22-2017 11:11:53 UTC

This would also remove

A Manager whose team has played two more games than any other manager may not have their team play in a blogsball game.

from the rule. A good reason to specify the changes as the difference instead of rewriting the whole rule.  against


04-22-2017 11:14:53 UTC

And if I read more carefully I would have seen that point’s already been discussed.

Oracular rufio:

04-22-2017 18:03:08 UTC