Monday, October 31, 2005

Proposal: More Powers, again

6-1. Reached Quorum. Popularity and Fana where found abusable by 3 or more Deities. Consider that I changed my vote to make no-realiable abusable also.—Chronos.

Adminned at 02 Nov 2005 04:58:03 UTC

If Proposal: Strange Powers didn’t pass, this Proposal does nothing.


In the Powers rule, change

Deities start with no Powers, but may create a new Power by spending 1 Quintessence and constructing a new Power from a combination of the components listed below, and giving it a name of their choice. Each component has a Worship or a Might cost - a constructed power must have at least as much Worship as Might. If a Power uses any Global Might, it must also have at least as much Global Worship. A Power may only contain one instance of each component.

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Deities start with no Powers, but may create a new Power by spending 1 Quintessence and constructing a new Power from a combination of the components listed below, and giving it a name of eir choice.

At any time, a Deity may modify a Power e eirself has created, by spending 1 Quintessence. A Power can only be modified by adding components to it.

Each component has a Worship or a Might cost - a Power being constructed or modified must have at least as much Worship as Might. If a Power uses any Global Might, it must also have at least as much Global Worship.

If a Power has a Component which gives a variable amount of Worship or Might, the balance condition between those amounts (Worship >= Might and Global Worship >= Global Might) must be true when the power is being used, instead of when it is being constructed.

A Power may only contain one instance of each component.


Add the following components to the list in that rule:

* Popularity: Power can only be used if the Deity doing so is the Godhead. (+15 Global Worship)

* Universal: This power can be used by any Deity, not only by the one who created it. (+5 Global Worship)

* Awe: Your people adores you. Power can only be used in a City where you have Worshippers. Figures X to the number of Worshippers you have in that city, divided by 100, rounded down - for example, both 1.01 and 1.99 are rounded to 1.00. (+X City Worship).

* Non-reliable: You must roll a DICE8 when trying to use this power. X is the result of that dice roll. Only usable if this Power is also either a Holy Day or a Festival. (+X Global Worship if it’s a Holy Day; + 3X Global Worship if it’s a Festival).

* Fana: X is the total number of Temples you have. (+X Global Worship).


* Transmorphing: You can change roles without spending any Quintessence (+50 Global Might).

* Channeling: You may transfer X Quintessence from a Deity to another. (+12X Global Might)

* Shapeshifting: When changing roles, you may change the ownership of X Temples from your previous Incarnation to your new one. Only one power with the Shapeshifting component may be used per change of role. (+18X Global Might)


As usual, voters on this proposal may list any Components they feel are abusable, along with their vote - if any Component is considered abusable by three or more Deities, it shall be removed from the list when this proposal is enacted.


Last try has failed for lacking of votes. I’m trying it again, having tunned down some of the powers people felt as abusable before.

Comments

TrumanCapote:

31-10-2005 14:15:54 UTC

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Kevan: he/him

31-10-2005 16:55:04 UTC

for A bit confusing with the Xs, but less so once we’re writing powers up - that Fana-Channeling would be “Transfer X/12 Quintessence from one Deity to another, where X is the number of Temples you control.”

smith:

31-10-2005 17:00:30 UTC

against I’m sorry Chronos, I just don’t like or understand many of these:
Awe - does this multiply or add worshippers? If I have Awe 1 and a temple does it mean I have 101 worshippers, or 110?
Non-reliable - Do I have to roll X or less, or exactly X?
Fana - Is this X additional temples or X temples total (no matter how many I really have)?

ChronosPhaenon:

31-10-2005 17:19:36 UTC

An Awe/Inspire power would read: Create a Temple to any Deity in a City where you have at least 1,000 Worshippers.

A Fana/Inspire power would read: If you have at least 10 Temples, create a Temple to any Deity in any City.

A Non-Reliabe-Mob-Priest-Inspire power would read: If you roll 2 or more in a DICE8, create a Temple to any Deity in a City belonging to your Pantheon where you have Temples.

Just read the X components as “Ifs” when using the powers. They don’t add anything to the actual game variables they rely upon.

smith:

31-10-2005 17:49:00 UTC

Ok that makes sense, worship components are limitations not improvements (that would be a might component)—I am dense.

I’m still not happy with introducing all of these components at once. I’d rather do just a few at a time.

against I feel that Popularity, Awe, Fana and Non-reliable are abusable.

ChronosPhaenon:

31-10-2005 17:55:14 UTC

Why is Popularity abusable?

smith:

31-10-2005 18:29:44 UTC

Not abusable, really - but that is the only wording I can use to go against an element in the proposal. I feel it gives the godhead too much power - a free inspire, might or radiate per day (or even several if affecting different deities/cities)

TrumanCapote:

31-10-2005 18:34:42 UTC

I think Fana and Popularity are abusable.

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ChronosPhaenon:

31-10-2005 18:37:30 UTC

for Self Vote to say I find Popularity and Fana abusable.

What do you think about Popularity giving 8 Worship?

smith:

31-10-2005 19:06:33 UTC

Hm, I’d go for 5 Worship. What about the Popularity-Universal combo - that’s a bit odd.

ChronosPhaenon:

31-10-2005 19:16:13 UTC

Popularity-Universal means anyone who is the Godhead can use the power. Ex.: Supposing there is a 5 Worship Popularity component and Deity Foo creates a Popularity-Universal-Inspire power, then if Deity Bar is the Godhead then Bar can create Temples for free (one in each city per day).

Gwydion:

01-11-2005 21:57:22 UTC

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Angry Grasshopper:

02-11-2005 00:49:54 UTC

I find Fana abusable. Universal I like, though. Maybe it can be toned down to appease the dissenters? Personally I think that Might is perfect—you are the supreme deity of the Blognomic pantheon, right?

Excalabur:

02-11-2005 06:59:45 UTC

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Excalabur:

02-11-2005 07:13:00 UTC

I find non-reliable abusable.  More for theme reasons than acutal abuse