Proposal: Subversion Escalation, Take Three
Timed Out. Fails 1-3—Clucky
Adminned at 31 Jan 2021 18:52:40 UTC
Create a new rule entitled “Imperial Devolution [Universal]” with the following text:
The Player may not veto any Proposals do not include at least one of the following tags: [Core], [Special Case], [Appendix], [Victory]. If a Proposal would cause the game to become unplayable; would effectively amend or allow arbitrary amendment of a Core, Special Case, or Appendix rule; or would grant immediate victory to the enacting Admin; then, instead, the Player may and should veto that Proposal.
Delete the text in the rule “Treaties [Universal]” that reads “The Player should veto any proposal that would make an Emperor a Signatory to a Treaty against his will, or that would convert a Treaty into a Universal rule without the assent of all non-Signatory Emperors. Moreover,”
Add a new subrule to the rule “Treaties [Universal]” called “Treaty Limits [Universal]” that reads as follows:
A Proposal that creates or amends a Treaty is considered Unpopular, and is not considered Popular, so long as any of the following would be true of its effects upon enactment:
- They would make an Emperor a Signatory to a Treaty without that Emperor’s consent.
- They would convert a Treaty into a Universal rule.
- They would add or remove Signatories from another Treaty, except as mediated by Universal rules.
- They would restrict the actions of non-Signatories, beyond not being able to act as Signatories.
- They would avoid the requirement that the Player always be a Signatory.
- They would make substantial modifications to another Treaty, such that it effectively becomes a different Treaty.
- They would enable arbitrary rules modifications.
However, the foregoing list of conditions excepts the following cases:
- A Treaty may affect its own subrules. Subrules of a Treaty may affect the parent Treaty or other subrules of that Treaty.
- Treaties may have terms specific to mutual Signatories with other Treaties—for example, by modifying variables defined in the other Treaty.
- Treaties may declare the Player and other Signatories as second-class Signatories who may not take certain actions.
Enact the rule modifications set forth in Bucky’s proposal entitled “Universality Incorporated” from January 27th of 2021.
If Bucky’s proposal entitled “Idle Signatures” from January 27th of 2021 did not enact, then enact its rule modifications as well.
Modified to account for requests to keep all of this as dynastic material.
Still seems a fool’s errand to try to define “game-breaking proposals” as a short, exhaustive list, and yes, the platonic failure is a problem, particularly when some of the things on that list could be done subtly or accidentally (allowing a scam of “surprise, that proposal didn’t actually enact two weeks ago”).
Bucky:
Hmm, so you’re giving up the opportunity to try to slip one by me, and instead making failure platonic? That seems brittle, as we might notice a forced Signature method or other violation only after the fact.
You also appear to have inverted the relationship where parents can modify subrules.