Friday, March 13, 2020

Proposal: Umpire of the Vanities

Popular, 9-1. Josh

Adminned at 15 Mar 2020 07:24:11 UTC

In “Items”, replace the paragraph beginning “An item in an auction must have the following qualities” and the bullet list below it with:-

An item in an auction must have the following qualities (the name being chosen by Louis XIV and all other qualities being selected at random):

* A Name
* A Type (either Physical, Favour of the King, Loyalty from a Vassal, Romantic, or Military)
* A sequence of either one, two or three Impacts (the number selected at random, then each Impact selected at random; the same impact may be selected more than once for an item)

Impacts and their effects to the winner upon being won are:

* Instructive (+1 Power)
* Extravagant (+1 Prestige)
* Distracting (-1 Power to a minimum of zero)
* Unfashionable (-1 Prestige to a minimum of zero)
* Valuable (-X Debt, where X is a secretly random number from zero to the median average Debt of all Noblemen)

Impact effects are applied in the order they are listed on the Item, when that Item is won.

If a Military Item would be Extravagant, it is instead Instructive. If a Favour of the King Item would be Valuable, it is instead Extravagant.

Remove “A sale price in money; winning this item will reduce your Debt by this amount.” from the final bullet list in that rule.

As prompted by Josh’s original proposal, changing “which may be determined by Louis XIV by whatever means he sees fit” into something more automatic. Basing saleable item costs on a random Debt-derived number maybe isn’t giving too much away?

Comments

Josh: Observer he/they

13-03-2020 14:25:12 UTC

for

Lulu: she/her

13-03-2020 15:22:42 UTC

for

naught:

13-03-2020 15:41:20 UTC

for

Clucky: he/him

13-03-2020 15:59:44 UTC

Can debt go negative? Or does Valuable also need a “to a minimum of zero” clause?

Madrid:

13-03-2020 16:01:03 UTC

@Cluky: The Appendix should cover that

Kevan: he/him

13-03-2020 16:02:05 UTC

Apparently not (“Debt must be a non-negative integer.”), so yes.

Brendan: he/him

13-03-2020 17:12:33 UTC

for

Darknight: he/him

13-03-2020 19:26:22 UTC

for

Clucky: he/him

13-03-2020 21:38:02 UTC

Yeah that’s the problem. Debt must be a non-negative integer. So Josh would not legally be allowed to end an auction with a valuable item that would reduce someone’s debt below 0. It would remain in an forever open state until the winner’s debt increases enough that there is room to close it.

against

Kevan: he/him

13-03-2020 22:59:59 UTC

Actually I should have included a clause to keep the current one alive - it becomes invalid under the new framework as its Impacts aren’t clearly listed. Feel free to veto this if it’s about to enact before the current auction closes, Josh.

Ninja:

14-03-2020 06:31:48 UTC

imperial

Tantusar: he/they

14-03-2020 10:19:11 UTC

imperial

Farsight:

14-03-2020 12:08:59 UTC

for