Sunday, February 04, 2007

Proposal: Wealth beyond measure II

Self-killed by alethiophile. Failed by Angry Grasshopper.

Adminned at 05 Feb 2007 15:09:47 UTC

Add a new rule called Wealth:

Each Actor has a Wealth number tracked in the GNDT. Wealth is measured in X units.

All comments containing For votes should also contain a nomination for the unit. The nomination that is mentioned most will replace “X units” when this Proposal is enacted. If there is a tie, the winner is decided at the discretion of the Investor.
We can add salaries, movie jobs and other wealth-related things later. This creates a good and realistic framework.



02-04-2007 01:34:36 UTC

against Money is not relevent for us, were superrich hollywood stars

Angry Grasshopper:

02-04-2007 01:41:16 UTC

I liked this in its first form, so


I nominate ‘Dollars’ for our currency. How pedestrian!


02-04-2007 01:44:58 UTC

Megabucks sounds like a good unit name. And it’s just vague enough to work!


02-04-2007 01:49:46 UTC

for I recommend “Grand” for the currency name.


02-04-2007 02:24:55 UTC

for I recommend that this rule is silly.  against


02-04-2007 02:56:47 UTC

Currency makes perfect sense for a Hollywood-genre game.  In the real Hollywood, there are several ways of keeping score: how much money you have, what’s your asking price for your next picture, how many awards or nominations you have, who you’re banging, and how quickly can you get a table at Spago.


02-04-2007 04:03:09 UTC

I propose we name the currency…influence within the Church of Scientology…just kidding folks. This looks better than its predecessor.  for I’m for the pound sterling or the yen. Just for fun, you know.


02-04-2007 04:59:37 UTC

I like megabucks too.  Like he said, doesn’t really have any concrete meaning (yes mega, a million, but…) and it sounds Hollywoodly.

Angry Grasshopper:

02-04-2007 05:01:42 UTC


I’m changing my nomination to ‘megabucks’!

Elias IX:

02-04-2007 06:10:21 UTC

for nomination: the pound sterling


02-04-2007 08:47:56 UTC

against I dislike having a unit for currency. I’m unsure that there are ways to use it that haven’t been seen before.


02-04-2007 08:52:15 UTC



02-04-2007 12:45:55 UTC

against It should be about Fame, not Wealth.


02-04-2007 15:25:44 UTC

for semollions


02-04-2007 15:28:06 UTC

I’m fine with money as long as it is not the ultimate goal. Actors who move to Hollywood are generally extremely poor, and they would have to work a job on top of auditioning for bum rolls to try to make the rent check every month. Money won’t help make you a star really, but it would help you survive.


02-04-2007 16:22:26 UTC

Fine, Megabucks, for the sake of unamity.


02-04-2007 19:52:32 UTC

for You have incurred my wrath for arbritrarily trying to disallow those of us who vote against from having a say in the naming of the currency.  Fortunately (as I assume that Excalabur noticed), you do not require the comments to contain _counted_ FOR votes.  I nominate “Spam” for the unit of currency.


02-04-2007 19:53:39 UTC

for  against I nominate “Spam” for the unit.  Oh, my….  Things could get messy in this proposal.

Angry Grasshopper:

02-04-2007 19:58:47 UTC


But I now nominate ‘cuttlefish’, which will eat Hix’s ‘Spam’, bwahaha!

Think you’re tricky, eh Hix? ;)


02-04-2007 22:30:36 UTC

The leader of the pack for currency names is “megabucks”, with 4. Next, we have Pounds Sterling, with 3 (that’s my nomination). I’m not counting “spam”, because that’s dumb and doesn’t come from people who voted “for”.


02-04-2007 22:52:04 UTC

for  against Spam.

I was also agrivated by the people voting against not having a say.


02-04-2007 23:40:25 UTC

If you don’t want it to happen at all, what’s the point of your voting on what to call it? “I don’t want it to happen, but if it does happen, I want it to happen this way.” Sort of weakens your position, doesn’t it?


02-05-2007 00:03:14 UTC

I dont want it to happen, but if it HAS to happen, I should have some say in what its called.  Since If it does happen Im still going to be playing in a game with it in.

Spam is a protest vote, since the proposal was deliberatly written so that those who dont want it done get a say in what it is called if it does pass.


02-05-2007 01:30:58 UTC

for  against Spam, and it should be counted.


02-05-2007 01:31:21 UTC

for  against Spam, and it should be counted.


02-05-2007 01:31:43 UTC

for  against Spam, and it should be counted. (thrice)

Angry Grasshopper:

02-05-2007 01:35:55 UTC

for Cuttlefish!


Angry Grasshopper:

02-05-2007 01:36:07 UTC

for Cuttlefish!

Angry Grasshopper:

02-05-2007 01:36:47 UTC

for Cuttlefish!

There. I’ve nominated ‘cuttlefish’ in these last three votes.


02-05-2007 01:52:21 UTC

Multiple votes don’t count either.

Angry Grasshopper:

02-05-2007 01:54:29 UTC

Not sure about that. The text reads

All comments containing For votes should also contain a nomination for the unit.


All comments containing counted FOR votes should also contain a nomination for the unit.

Read it literally. ;)


02-05-2007 01:55:12 UTC

Actually by the definition of the rules a vote is any vote at all.  It is just not counted if there is a more recent one.  Since we have not been limited here to counted for votes, I think that this is valid

Angry Grasshopper:

02-05-2007 01:58:07 UTC

Yeah, ChinDoGu, that seems right to me. One may of course raise a Call for Judgment if there is any disagreement on that bit afterwards.



I think our currency should be yen.

The Doctor:

02-05-2007 10:35:04 UTC

for  against Disney Dollars (seems very hollywood to me)

The Doctor:

02-05-2007 10:35:45 UTC

for  against No actually monopoly money.

The Doctor:

02-05-2007 10:36:10 UTC

for  against Or beads, we could measure wealth in beads.

Elias IX:

02-05-2007 13:34:41 UTC


Fame > Wealth


02-05-2007 16:57:47 UTC

Okay, seriously, people stop posting multiple comments or comments with a non-counted For vote. I think you could make a case for these people being called trolls—they’re clogging up a vote by voting multiple times and making joke nominations for currency name.


02-05-2007 17:05:49 UTC

As far as I can tell, so far, it’s 8-6 against. People have confused the vote with multiples and CoVs, so tell me if I’m wrong.


02-05-2007 17:09:13 UTC

Uh, I’m not sure that that’s entirely fair, alethiophile - they’re performing a valid game action, and this game in particular has a long history of exploiting unintended consequences of hastily written proposals / rules. Furthermore, I think that Grasshopper and Chronos both have a substantial enough play history to make accusations of trollishness faintly absurd. If you don’t like their joke - and admittedly it’s lost some of its charm for me, too - then simply self-kill it and re-propose it, with tighter wording.

Angry Grasshopper:

02-05-2007 19:40:58 UTC

You are right though Josh—it is getting a little silly at this point.


02-05-2007 20:05:09 UTC

against This is hereby self-killed. There are enough people here who are willing to disrupt the process in order to get their way that I see I have to leave no room for interpretation.


02-05-2007 20:14:02 UTC

Haha. This topic made me laugh. I read late last night after the superbowl, and didn’t get it due to being tired. Now I am inwardly cracking up. Don’t leave loopholes in your posts!

Angry Grasshopper:

02-05-2007 20:15:50 UTC

I wonder if this thread hits our record for greatest number of comments. ;)


02-05-2007 22:54:36 UTC

Still a for and I’m with Spam now!