> its effects are limited to changing the ranks of members of that Department

But the effects are not limited to changing the ranks of “that Department”, as it changes the ranks of people who are in a department that wasn’t named (so cannot be that department)

Perhaps it’s the Department of “my coworkers!” 🤔

alright. well I’m not a part of the Department of “my coworkers” and thus the effects of this proposal are not limited to changing the ranks of the Department “my coworkers” and so this is not a departmental proposal

I don’t see any logic by which the named Employees could be the target of the “that”

I don’t see any logic by which multiple named Departments could be the target of a singular pronoun, either.

There, is that better?

not really. I agree the “that department” pronoun makes this a bit awkward when naming multiple departments. But that still doesn’t let you magically target other departments

Linguistically it’s still murky to the point of opacity.

I acknowledge the scam but I don’t think it can be made to work cleanly; the best you can hope for is a bampamy CfJ imo.

As I don’t believe this is a Dept proposal.

I don’t know what this is and I defy the resolving admin to find out, but if they decide my vote counts then I want it to be this.

if I am the resolving admin i am resolving this as not a dept proposal, but I encourage Zack to slap a veto on it so we don’t need to deal with the resulting CfJ

oh dear,

I was on the fence about this one but it’s pretty much nonsense, might as well save us the headache.