Tuesday, January 18, 2022

Proposal: Division Of Labor

Timed out and enacted, 6-2. Josh

Adminned at 20 Jan 2022 17:40:43 UTC

Add to the rule “Departments” as a new paragraph:

A proposal is a Departmental Proposal if and only if it mentions by name any number of departments, includes the phrase “A memo for my coworkers”, its effects are limited to changing the ranks of members of that Department, and it does not include the phrase “All departments” or a synonym for it. Only employees who are members of the departments named in a Departmental Proposal may vote on that Departmental Proposal; all other votes are invalid. For the purpose of calculating the quorum for a Departmental Proposal, only the Employees whose votes would be valid are considered to be Employees.

 

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Comments

Brendan: he/him

18-01-2022 17:13:45 UTC

I think this is a pretty quick route to a roll-off victory proposal. You’d only need three confederates to pull it off, even if the rest of the department and the CEO all vote against.

Kevan: he/him

18-01-2022 17:25:43 UTC

The CEO could still veto if they were awake before it reached 12 hours, but that’s small comfort.

More trivially, we’d probably see a round of “give everyone in this department 100 options” memos.

I like the idea, though, and was considering proposing something like it. I think it just needs to restrict a memo’s effects to gamestate changes that other departments wouldn’t care about - which right now is maybe just the hierarchy of the memo’s own department.

Snisbo: she/they

18-01-2022 17:52:02 UTC

@Kevan I tried to think of a way to do that, but couldn’t come up with anything better than “The CEO should Veto any proposal which would allow an unfair advantage to any department” which has more holes than a sponge.

Kevan: he/him

18-01-2022 18:12:53 UTC

I’d throw “its effects are limited to changing the ranks of members of that Department,” into the list of what defines a Departmental Proposal. It’s narrow, but it would be a good way to allow Departments to sort themselves out, and could be expanded later on.

Silverwing: she/her

18-01-2022 21:10:54 UTC

against

Brendan: he/him

18-01-2022 22:00:13 UTC

for :D

Josh: Observer he/they

18-01-2022 22:18:38 UTC

against

Kevan: he/him

18-01-2022 22:34:43 UTC

“its effects are limited to changing the ranks of members of that Department” is in there now.

for

TyGuy6:

18-01-2022 22:39:06 UTC

imperial

Trapdoorspyder: he/him

19-01-2022 02:34:58 UTC

for

Snisbo: she/they

19-01-2022 04:36:06 UTC

Yep, I added it because getting the mechanic started is more important for what I was trying to do than any exact details. I’d prefer it being able to do more (create new actions each department can make for example) but that can come later.

TyGuy6:

19-01-2022 08:40:54 UTC

imperial We’re going to have some weird timing effects, but I guess we can try it.

lendunistus: he/him

19-01-2022 09:11:21 UTC

imperial

Clucky: he/him

19-01-2022 20:31:58 UTC

There are some fun mechanics around people voting and them moving teams here but that seems rare enough its probably okay for

Darknight: he/him

19-01-2022 22:08:26 UTC

for

lendunistus: he/him

20-01-2022 14:48:51 UTC

for

a departmental proposal sure does seem interesting