Gah, I was trying to edit this pre-vote and wound up making dupes. Could an admin please remove my previous two posts titled ‘remove’?

This proposal has no effect. Even if a rule causes something to happen when a proposal passes, that is not an effect of the proposal itself.

That depends on what your definition of “is” is.

is this allowed??

I just made the dupe proposals into story posts; unfortunately, there is no way to delete posts entirely.

i don’t even know what this is attempting to achieve, so i’d definitely have to say it’s evil and underhanded…

Also, can Jay vote DEF on his own proposal? If Purplebeard now votes against, does that count as a self-kill?

You can’t act on a proposal after a veto, so my self-kill a fraction of a second later wouldn’t trigger.

Purplebeard’s against isn’t necessarily a veto.

True. Changing my vote per rule 1.4.

Since you can’t change a s/k vote, if PB votes against this, would it be considered s/k anyway?

It isn’t a self-kill yet, and it’s not a DEF now. The Overlord’s decision no longer matters in that meta-way. Unless he wants it to.

i think this dynasty is getting very confused lol

RLY?

YA RLY!

Why didn’t you write your proposal to just give you 11 GL?

(And on a related note, if you look at purplebeards veto’ing history you could have know that he would veto this).