Friday, January 20, 2023

Proposal: Red Sky at Night

Timed out 5 votes to 1 with 1 unresolved DEF. Enacted by Kevan.

Adminned at 22 Jan 2023 13:10:13 UTC

Add a new rule, “Almanac Proposals”:-

If a proposal has the [Almanac] tag, then it is an Almanac proposal. If an Almanac proposal is less than 48 hours old and is Popular, but no Production of Resources action has occurred while it has been pending, then it is instead not Popular.

We could maybe use a shorthand for proposals that we only want enacted after the current round has ended. (Sails on the Horizon potentially changes the outcome of the current round during it, meaning that the ideal Bribing and Building behaviours right now depend on whether the proposal enacts before or after the round ends.)


Benbot: he/him

20-01-2023 16:31:55 UTC


Josh: he/they

21-01-2023 16:48:48 UTC


JonathanDark: Publisher he/him

21-01-2023 17:40:47 UTC


Raven1207: he/they

21-01-2023 18:43:24 UTC


Lulu: she/her

22-01-2023 03:43:54 UTC


Chiiika: she/her

22-01-2023 12:24:16 UTC

I don’t think this works - a Proposal that is not Popular cannot be made to be popular(?) against

Kevan: he/him

22-01-2023 12:29:20 UTC

[Chiiika] What do you mean?

Josh: he/they

22-01-2023 12:38:54 UTC

Actually, I do agree that there’s a malign interaction. If a proposal is not Popular then it is Unpopular, which means it can be failed; this opens up the door to admin discretion, allowing them to fail an otherwise popular Almanac proposal that would be timing out.

against but would support a rework.

Kevan: he/him

22-01-2023 12:46:50 UTC

Is that right? A proposal not being Popular doesn’t make it Unpopular; proposals can be (and always begin as) neither.

A not-Popular proposal becomes Unpopular if it times out, but the Almanac clause here only applies for the first 48 hours.

Josh: he/they

22-01-2023 13:03:48 UTC

Ah; true. Okay for