Saturday, July 17, 2010

Proposal: Since I started this mess

Self-Killed and Failed. - lilomar

Adminned at 19 Jul 2010 07:02:53 UTC

Change the Definition of Quorum in the Keywords section of the Glossary to

Quorum of a subset of @s is half the number of @s in that subset, rounded down, plus one. If the word Quorum is used without qualifying which subset of @s it is referring to, it is referring to all @s.

If you flip it around it works better. Even though we usually use the non-qualified case.

Comments

Klisz:

17-07-2010 19:12:13 UTC

for

Rodney:

17-07-2010 19:57:02 UTC

for

redtara: they/them

17-07-2010 21:23:59 UTC

for  for

Galdyn:

18-07-2010 00:08:44 UTC

for

Darknight: he/him

18-07-2010 02:56:19 UTC

for

Bucky:

18-07-2010 03:14:54 UTC

for

Qwazukee:

18-07-2010 04:47:03 UTC

Read that last bit carefully: “If the word Quorum is used… it is referring to all @s.” We don’t want it to refer to all @s… just 1/2 of them

Qwazukee:

18-07-2010 04:47:17 UTC

so against

ais523:

18-07-2010 13:24:35 UTC

against per Qwazukee; I was going to propose a fix myself along similar lines to this one, but it’s important we don’t leave another loophole in the wording.

lilomar:

18-07-2010 15:01:12 UTC

I think it still works, Quorum is referring to all @s, meaning a Quorum of all @s, which is 1/2+1. But I’ll s/k in favor of being very specific before this passes if people still think that that is a valid concern.

ais523:

18-07-2010 15:12:03 UTC

It’s ambiguous, and the consequences of the interpretation we don’t want being the “correct” one are pretty bad (requiring a unanimous vote for proposals and CFJs).

lilomar:

18-07-2010 15:16:39 UTC

I’ll propose a fix then. against

does this work? :

Quorum of a subset of @s is half the number of @s in that subset, rounded down, plus one. If the word Quorum is used without qualifying which subset of @s it is referring to, it is referring to a Quorum of all @s.

ais523:

18-07-2010 16:37:54 UTC

Yes, that works (as long as it’s not in a rule that treats idle @s as @s; but the Glossary is not such a rule).