Friday, March 30, 2012

Proposal: Tick tock

Timed out and passed, 6-3. Josh

Adminned at 02 Apr 2012 00:44:40 UTC

Add the following to the list of institutions

Watchtower: When a Player (henceforth the Watcher) influences the Watchtower they gain 2 power. During the next cycle they may send The Net a message declaring an Institution or Player to Watch. (If they sent multiple such messages, the most recently sent one is the one The Net should use). Upon resolution of that cycle, if the Watcher picked an Institution to Watch the Net should inform the Watcher by private message a list of all Players who Directed Resources at that Institution and how many of each they directed by each of them. If the Watcher picked a Player to Watch, the Net should inform the Watcher by private a message a list of all Institutions that player Directed Resources to and how many of each were directed to each of them.

Comments

Cpt_Koen:

30-03-2012 21:48:25 UTC

for
However, I think you should reword
“Upon resolution of that cycle, if the Watcher picked an Institution to Watch the Net should inform the Watcher by private message a list of all Players who Directed Resources at that Institution and how many of each they directed by each of them.”
which is barely readable, and add “either” or something somewhere, to prevent the Watcher from Watching both an Institution and a Player.

In addition, I think this would be more useful if the Net was to inform the Watcher as fast as directions come along. That is, before the end of the cycle, so that the Watcher can adjust their bid using the information.
Though that might create timing issues (in particular, it makes it better to send directions at the last moment, which rewards people who can be there at the last moment)

Patrick:

30-03-2012 21:50:06 UTC

against
If anyone influenced this I feel that every player would wait until the last few minutes of the cycle to make their bid, not giving spc enough time to relay the info and not giving the watched enough time to use the info.

southpointingchariot:

30-03-2012 21:59:05 UTC

against Per patrick. Also, I am not constantly available. I would support this with a 24 hour grace period.

Clucky: he/him

30-03-2012 22:01:40 UTC

Assuming I worded it right, this isn’t “See what other people are influencing in the current cycle so you can change your commands accordingly” its “See what other people influenced in the last cycle for informational purposes”

Murphy:

30-03-2012 22:04:28 UTC

for

Patrick:

31-03-2012 01:22:32 UTC

@Clucky: That’s unclear, to me anyways.

Cpt_Koen:

31-03-2012 01:33:38 UTC

So let’s vote for and then fix it!

Soviet Brendon:

31-03-2012 03:08:33 UTC

imperial

Bucky:

31-03-2012 03:24:41 UTC

against due to timing problems.

Josh: Observer he/they

31-03-2012 07:10:05 UTC

for It’s not unclear, it explicitly says “upon resolution of the cycle”.

I like the idea - I don’t think it should have 2 Power, as that seems like a bit too much of the reward along with the Watchtower power - but we can see how it goes.

Yonah:

31-03-2012 13:46:29 UTC

for The information this provides isn’t really that valuable, since it is not hard to deduce where resources are going based on who influenced what and how many credits they ended up with, but it is a nice perk and adds another source of Power.

Patrick:

31-03-2012 14:28:22 UTC

@Josh: You’re right, I must have missed that. for

southpointingchariot:

31-03-2012 14:34:13 UTC

But there are other ambiguities; “the Net should inform the Watcher by private message a list of all Players who Directed Resources at that Institution and how many of each they directed by each of them” does not specify if this means during the whole game, during the previous cycle, during this cycle, during the last 10 minutes - the most clear meaning would be the whole game.

Josh: Observer he/they

31-03-2012 15:20:55 UTC

So it needs patching. It’ll come into play unpowered, it’s not like we’re short o time to tinker with wording issues.

Clucky: he/him

01-04-2012 18:05:51 UTC

@Josh its only one institution or player. Originally I was going to make it “You get to see everything” but it was a pain to word that right so I nerfed it and felt like two power was a fair comp.

Josh: Observer he/they

01-04-2012 19:20:56 UTC

I know; I’m voting for it. It’s SPC you want to convince :)

Cpt_Koen:

01-04-2012 21:32:01 UTC

“When a Player Influences the Watchtower, the Net must provide them with a copy of every Direction that has been sent that cycle.”

southpointingchariot:

01-04-2012 22:37:13 UTC

Maybe just the lastest direction for each player that directed resources?