Saturday, October 16, 2021

Proposal: A deceptively simple proposal that helps me get closer to victory in a subtle way

Timed out 6 votes to 2. Enacted by Kevan. Powering step is impossible to perform at present, so is skipped

Adminned at 18 Oct 2021 07:39:55 UTC

Randomly select 10 distinct Unpowered Floors and set them to Powered.

Give the Citizen Raven1207 a Smoke Grenade.

Advance Time.

I’d be glad to offer you your Goal, Raven, if you would like to set one within the edit window here.



16-10-2021 01:28:46 UTC

“No more than 20 floors may be Powered at any time…” This would make 23 floors powered, before advancing time.

I don’t know if we’ll come out with 20 floors powered, 13 floors, or get it all reset to some default value.


16-10-2021 01:31:27 UTC

I recommend striking that sentence from the rules, first. It’s the same problem we had with Katelyn’s moving to copbot locations. It’s a redundant sentence that is problematic out of context.

Zack: he/him

16-10-2021 01:43:07 UTC

I would argue that 23 floors aren’t ever actually powered at once because the action of powering more than 23 floors must also, in the same breath, unpower 8 floors.

Zack: he/him

16-10-2021 01:47:53 UTC

If it’s going to be an issue I will CfJ to change the “may” to a “should” and that should solve it.

Josh: he/him

16-10-2021 07:51:01 UTC


Kevan: he/him

16-10-2021 09:02:00 UTC

I think we’re into another “X is impossible. If X happens…” situation with the 23 floors. The second sentence of “No more than 20 floors may be Powered at any time. If at any time a citizen causes more than 20 floors…” is never relevant, because the first sentence stops it from happening.

I’d say we were just handing out one Smoke Grenade and Advancing Time, here.


lemon: she/her

16-10-2021 09:30:42 UTC


redtara: they/them

17-10-2021 03:18:27 UTC


Kevan: he/him

17-10-2021 15:37:47 UTC

Noting that the Power Struggle CfJ will negate my earlier reading of this proposal, if it enacts before this does.

Zack: he/him

17-10-2021 15:54:11 UTC


Raven1207: he/him

17-10-2021 18:24:00 UTC



17-10-2021 20:33:57 UTC

for Go for it. I’m curious to see what happens, even with the CfJ not passing first.

Zack: he/him

18-10-2021 00:06:01 UTC

If the CFJ doesn’t pass first then apparently Raven gets a smoke grenade and time advances because it’s not possible to power 10 more floors when 13 are already powered. I could have included a provision in Power Struggle to cover the case where this gets enacted before it does, but I didn’t, so que sera sera.