I disagree with the claim that the ruleset doesn’t specify how multiple bids should interact with winning the auction and increasing debt. Highest of any bid wins. Add that to their debt. Deduct power from all bids. If someone screwed themselves trying to scam with multiple bids I want them to take their lumps.

@pokes - I understand the impulse but the current rules are not sufficiently explicit. “Noblemen may privately bid upon those items by sending a message”, for example, implies that there can only be one singular bid message; what does that mean for your position that ‘the bid’ is effectively a worst-case amalgam of all bid messages sent?

I think pokes is right in their interpenetration of how it would work

But there are valid reasons for sending multiple bids. I had to send a second bid because I tried something and Josh was like “cute but no”. So now I technically have two bids in.

I do worry though, even with this fix in place

Wouldn’t “Increasing the Debt of these Winners by the Money (if any) they spent on their winning bids” “their winning bids” could mean “every winning bid a nobleman has made in any auction” and likewise “Reducing the Power of each bidder by the Power (if any) they spent on their bids (whether they won them or not)” could also apply to all bids they have ever made. So might need a bigger fix than this

Sorry, (lol,) but nobody has been given power to Open an Auction, and if they did, that status is neither defined nor tracked. }:-)

Also, the status of valid/invalid appears to be defined implicitly in the above patch, so changing it via CfJ appears either superfluous or contradictory, depending on whether the bid already meets the criteria.

Have a great day!

P.S. What is an Auction, anyway?

I’m not sure what you mean TyGuy - “If no Auction is open, Louis XIV may make an Auction Post detailing some items upon which Noblemen can bid and the effect that those items would have” is, if nothing else, not weaker than the standard set for Proposals (or CfJs, for that matter) in the core rules.

You’re capitalised Open but it’s not a keyword; by convention, at least, posting a post is the same as opening it. Maybe that should be in the glossary? Likewise valid and invalid, which are used in this CfJ in their conventional senses. Not everything has to be a keyword; sometimes we can rely on plain English meanings of words.

still think we need to clarify that only bids for the relevant auction are counted though. but for the existing auction its fine.

Fair point. Open IS used in the same way for proposals, and both open and Auction are reasonably obvious in their definitions. ... I guess your story checks out.

Thanks ?

Auctions are feeling a bit like Duels, from the Creatures dynasty. I might have to take a field trip to the past to recall what went down. Of course, different crowd, different conclusion.