Monday, February 05, 2007

Proposal: Six pi radians of Kevan’s Bacon

Failed 15-3. Adminned by Josh

Adminned at 06 Feb 2007 14:55:30 UTC

If the proposal “Rise to Fame” does not pass, this proposal does nothing.

Add a new rule called “Degrees of Separation”

In addition to the list of Film’s in eir Filmography, each Actor also has eir “distance” between each of the other actors listed.

Distance is defined as the length of the shortest path between two actors on the graph where:
*Each vertex represents an Actor, be it one or Blognomic or one in “real life”
*Any two vertexes are connected by an edge if the two actors appear in the same movie.

If an Actor has a named role, e counts as the real actor who played that role for that movie only. For example, if an actor has the role of “Han Solo”, e counts as Harrison Ford (Star Wars), and thus would be a distance two from anyone appearing in Raiders of the Lost Ark(Other than Indiana Jones himself, who said Actor would be a distance of one from).

If two Actors share the same named role and the same movie, they have distance 0.

If there is no path which connects two Actors, their distance is “Undefined”.

Any Actor may edit the distances between any other Actors(including eimself) providing the following happen:
*If e replaces a distance, the new distance must be less than the current distance. That is, e cannot make a longer chain.
*If e replaces the distance listed between Actor A and Actor B on Actor A’s filmography, e must use the same distance for Actor A on Actor B’s filmography.
*If the distance between Actor A and B is X and the distance between Actor B and C is Y, then the distance between Actor A and C cannot be set to more than X + Y.

If an Actor feels that a given distance between two Actors cannot be achieved, e can make a post about it on the blog declaring eir feelings. If no other Actor, within 24 hours of this post, posts a suitable length chain, then distance in question is reset to “Undefined”.

It is suggested, but not required, that Actors use on-line tools to help in calculating distances.

It is also suggested that if an Actor knows of such a tool, e post about it on the blog so that other Actors may use it.



02-05-2007 20:22:00 UTC

I’ll give this a for , but it seems doubtful to matter.


02-05-2007 20:42:19 UTC


The Doctor:

02-05-2007 20:47:38 UTC



02-05-2007 20:50:43 UTC

against Um, huh?  I read this three times and I still can’t parse it.  Something like a Bizarro-world Kevin Bacon game, I guess.  I might change my vote once the dust clears on the filmography-type proposals.  One apparent point of non-clarity is this proposal’s use of the word “actor” to refer both to a player in this nomic game, and a real life human being who happens to be an actor.


02-05-2007 20:52:40 UTC

I knew this probably wouldn’t make it through the first time, but I hope something can work. The issue is that “Kevin Bacon game” isn’t a well defined term. If anyone has any ideas on how to get at the nature of the rule without all the confusion, feel free to five it a try.


02-05-2007 21:42:23 UTC

against Unless there exists an automated tool to calculate this, I’m against, its just a LOT of work to maintain…


02-05-2007 21:47:21 UTC


Angry Grasshopper:

02-05-2007 22:31:19 UTC

Woooo we’re going in circles!

I really need to be more serious.


02-05-2007 22:36:02 UTC



02-05-2007 22:45:28 UTC

Yeah, no.


02-05-2007 23:07:20 UTC

for Hm? Seems okay to me. Needs a better mechanic for challenging illegal claims, but since they don’t count for anything yet, it doesn’t matter.


02-05-2007 23:54:23 UTC



02-06-2007 00:23:32 UTC

imperial huh?


02-06-2007 00:26:03 UTC



02-06-2007 00:36:54 UTC

I’m too confused as to how this would affect things to be able to muster a strong opinion.

Angry Grasshopper:

02-06-2007 01:10:35 UTC

I read through it (finally), and I like everything right up to

“Any Actor may edit the distances between any other Actors (including eimself) providing the following happen”.

I like everything that follows before the clauses for editing distance.

I’d vote FOR this proposal if it only defined the distances.



02-06-2007 12:03:25 UTC

against XLNT idea, bad implementation


02-06-2007 18:29:57 UTC



02-06-2007 22:40:25 UTC

against not quiet working yet