Monday, January 02, 2023

Proposal: Curses, foiled again

Withdrawn. Failed by Kevan.

Adminned at 03 Jan 2023 16:52:59 UTC

In the gamestate, add the “Uncursed” Property to all Items held by Explorers that don’t already have the Property “Cursed”, “Blessed”, or “Uncursed”

Despite all of the clean-up around Cursed, Blessed, and Uncursed, Items are currently held by Explorers that don’t have any of those Properties. It feels weird to have Explorers with Items that got exempted from this mechanic, so I think we need just a little more clean-up.


Josh: he/they

02-01-2023 18:28:36 UTC


JonathanDark: Publisher he/him

02-01-2023 18:29:14 UTC

The other option would be to have a something in the rules like: “Items without the Blessed, Cursed, or Uncursed properties are treated as if they had the Uncursed property”.

Functionally that would work, but it still wouldn’t look consistent in the gamestate, as you would wind up with Explorers that had some Items with explicit “Uncursed” text and some without.

Kevan: he/him

02-01-2023 18:59:42 UTC

They default to Untested, don’t they?

Chiiika said they’d be proposing randomising the statuses of old items as if they had just been picked up, in comments on their Nethacking proposal, which seems fairer to players who didn’t get the early items.


Josh: he/they

02-01-2023 19:09:59 UTC

Don’t think Untested exists any more


02-01-2023 19:13:34 UTC


Janet: she/her

03-01-2023 00:30:06 UTC


Kevan: he/him

03-01-2023 09:52:07 UTC

What do items default to right now? Is it “not Blessed, not Uncursed and not Cursed”, because each of those three states is a separate binary flag?

SingularByte: he/him

03-01-2023 09:59:28 UTC

I believe they default to being without properties since the items can have 0 or more. They act like uncursed items, but if you drop them then pick them back up, you have to do a check on them to see what they are.

Incidentally, it looks like the scroll does nothing since “untested” is undefined.

Darknight: he/him

03-01-2023 13:44:08 UTC


quirck: he/him

03-01-2023 15:17:45 UTC

against in favor of the next proposal

JonathanDark: Publisher he/him

03-01-2023 16:50:42 UTC

against Withdrawn

Kevan has posted a more fair Proposal.